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Offline flatiron1

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thoughts on wasd
« on: April 26, 2011, 09:51:14 PM »
Just wondering what do yall think about the new steering system. Please limit discussion to this only please.

Personality I don't care for it but will adjust. Have mapped my throttle to avoid the keyboard which made it bearable. Driving a m3 thru town at full speed seems to be a adventure at this point.

The  question I have is why did this particular change need to be made. Are some of the other GV changes dependent on this system?

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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2011, 09:55:30 PM »
I did enjoy working the transmission.  Perhaps they could make auto/manual transmission optional.  In the end Im alright with it either way.  Dont see the wasd formula as a BIG plus thats for sure, but again, no biggie.
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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2011, 09:57:05 PM »
did you miss the short intro video i believe waffle posted last month with the subsequent loooong discussion about it?

if i remember correctly, it's essentially part of htc's long term plan to be able to introduce more gv's faster...eliminating the interiors cuts down on some of the graphic detail work that has to be done.

the new drive system is pretty much a necessity with the removal of the driver position and interior views.
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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2011, 10:06:07 PM »
Does that, by necessity, include the ability to steer from pintle/main gun with pedals? I'm on board with the other stuff, but the A/D thing....talking away pedals, giving me an on/off switch, is a deal breaker. I'm not gonna quit, just not gonna gv anymore, really isn't enjoyable. I flew my F15 with A/D in the 1980s'
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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2011, 10:13:02 PM »
the wasd is my only gripe with the patch auto tranny drives me nuts been haveing trouble with getting tank to stop without reverseing. also the hill climbing is compromised with the tranny shifting constantly esp if u need to turn on a grade. the solution imo is to give more mapping options like z rotation to steer and the ability to map a manual tranny
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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2011, 10:13:50 PM »
I don't GV, but I agree that using A/D is pretty clunky to use for steering. It's either on or off, which means you don't have any fine control over just how hard you turn. Maybe not a BIG deal with tanks, but vehicles such as Jeeps which are prone to rollover when turning too hard at high speed are going to be hurt pretty badly by this.

Steering be mapped to the rudder pedals (as it was originally in the gunner positions) would have been a fair compromise.
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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2011, 10:17:35 PM »
WASD is a great change. I much prefer using mouse and keyboard for driving tanks. Mouse aiming is much more precise than joystick and WASD just feels right.

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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2011, 10:18:57 PM »
"the new drive system is pretty much a necessity with the removal of the driver position and interior views."

auto trans is fine was discussing the steering part.

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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 10:19:17 PM »
WASD is a great change. I much prefer using mouse and keyboard for driving tanks. Mouse aiming is much more precise than joystick and WASD just feels right.
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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 10:22:08 PM »
did you miss the short intro video i believe waffle posted last month with the subsequent loooong discussion about it?

if i remember correctly, it's essentially part of htc's long term plan to be able to introduce more gv's faster...eliminating the interiors cuts down on some of the graphic detail work that has to be done.

the new drive system is pretty much a necessity with the removal of the driver position and interior views.

I think the video said something along the lines of it would make it possible to have tanks that can turn in place with reversing tracks, and they plan to introduce tank destroyers with fixed guns IIRC.

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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 10:24:20 PM »
Not a complaint as I wont be able to actually try the game till saturday night when I get home. But the keyboard commands for GVing was a concern.
Would to me seem simpler just to map it to the joystick  itself with the centered position being dead stop and use the mouse stick on my throttle (for which I have otherwise found no useful purpose in game) to rotate and elevate/depress the turret.

But again. I havent been able to actually try it yet so that may be an unfair observation.
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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 10:26:26 PM »
Do you guys realize what % of people try AH that do not have a joystick? If you had not played a flight sim previously , did you have a joystick?

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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 10:28:55 PM »
I think the video said something along the lines of it would make it possible to have tanks that can turn in place with reversing tracks, and they plan to introduce tank destroyers with fixed guns IIRC.

Valid point.

but if its mapped to the stick itself. couldnt this also be acheived by simply moving the stick left or right while at a dead stop?

Again. I am voicing thoughts and suggestions based with no experience with the new system. Just in how I am imagining how it would/does work.

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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 10:30:05 PM »
Do you guys realize what % of people try AH that do not have a joystick? If you had not played a flight sim previously , did you have a joystick?

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no what percent don't have a joystick?

Is this the reason we have gone to wasd or are there other benefits?

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Re: thoughts on wasd
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 10:30:09 PM »
Do you guys realize what % of people try AH that do not have a joystick? If you had not played a flight sim previously , did you have a joystick?

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Actually yea. But I do get your point

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