Author Topic: Nothing to see here, move along  (Read 1894 times)

Offline Tango

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Nothing to see here, move along
« on: April 27, 2011, 10:09:48 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 10:26:51 PM »
Locked soon. But I do hate these people....RIP all soldiers that have lost their lives!!!
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 10:28:37 PM »
 :salute Staff Sgt Jason Rogers  :pray
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 10:29:36 PM »
As disgusting as this group is, they do have a Constitutional right to do what they do.  

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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2011, 10:35:28 PM »
      I wonder Akak, isn't a funeral a private affair?
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2011, 10:39:09 PM »
Not so long as it's in view of the general public.  Which sucks sometimes.  

There's a major difference between protesting for a cause and causing undue emotional pain for headlines.  

On a personal note before we all get rule numbered I wouldn't mind going Trunkmonkey on those jerks. 
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2011, 10:41:18 PM »
Not so long as it's in view of the general public.  Which sucks sometimes.  

There's a major difference between protesting for a cause and causing undue emotional pain for headlines.  

On a personal note before we all get rule numbered I wouldn't mind going Trunkmonkey on those jerks. 

 Didn't see anything in that article that stopped them from protesting. They just weren't able to do it at the funeral.
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2011, 10:43:53 PM »
Believe me, I'm happy as I can be that they were thwarted. 
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2011, 10:54:58 PM »
I have to handed to the people of the south. They are true patriot. They still have it in their blood even after being defeated in the American Civil War.    :salute
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2011, 11:43:06 PM »
They've got 71 members.  That's nothing.  AKAK has more people in his fan club than 71.  It's just such a small insignificant number I can't believe they garner any publicity at all.

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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 12:22:29 AM »
As disgusting as this group is, they do have a Constitutional right to do what they do.  

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No, they don't.  A funeral during process is a private affair, and considered private property, (as the plot holder has paid for that property).  The WB church can protest, but not to the extent that it would interfere with any activities that happen on (or causing a disturbance on) that property.  

Their "right" to do this BS will be overturned.  They can also be charged with disturbing the peace or disorderly conduct by most state laws.
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 12:34:34 AM »
No, they don't.  A funeral during process is a private affair, and considered private property, (as the plot holder has paid for that property).  The WBB church can protest, but not to the extent that it would interfere with any activities that happen on (or causing a disturbance on) that property.  

Their "right" to do this BS will be overturned.
I think the supreme court just ruled that they do have the right to do this BS.

I have family in the Army. If they were to show up at funeral for someone I love that would be the last thing they ever did.
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 12:36:11 AM »
I think the supreme court just ruled that they do have the right to do this BS.

I have family in the Army. If they were to show up at funeral for someone I love that would be the last thing they ever did.

It's pending appeal.  It will be overturned.  There was a technicality that they used that can only be overridden by appelate court.

EDIT: Also, the state laws vary, so it'll be a tricky process.  I would bet that it'll be a non issue before too long.

EDIT2:  I shouldn't have used the term "appelate court".  Sorry if that misled anyone.
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 12:39:55 AM »
It's pending appeal.  It will be overturned.  There was a technicality that they used that can only be overridden by appelate court.
Oh, I didn't know you could appeal a ruling from the supreme court.
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Re: Westboro church meets thier match
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 12:43:45 AM »
Oh, I didn't know you could appeal a ruling from the supreme court.

Sure can.  Why do ya think Roe vs. Wade is still being argued?  There's a process to appeal almost any decision.  

EDIT: It wouldn't be easy, but with an issue like this...  It'll get done.

I'll clarify it just a bit...

No single entity, whether it be the President, Senate, House of Representatives, state Governors, nor anyone else has the power to overturn a US Supreme Court ruling. Supreme Court decisions cannot be nullified by other parts of government. However (here's the kicker), if the Supreme Court strikes down a federal law, Congress can always modify the law until it is such that the Supreme Court does not consider it to violate the Constitution, then pass it again.

The other way is to pass and ratify a Constitutional Amendment, which the Supreme Court would then have to abide by.

The Supreme court can also overrule its own previous rulings.

Again, difficult but not out of reach.
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