Author Topic: Nothing to see here, move along  (Read 743 times)

Offline Reaper90

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Re: When men were men...
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2011, 11:07:05 PM »
I don't think the vid was "IN" worthy, but my problem is that it's just a glorification of the bad side that so many "race fans" only seem to want to see....

This is what I despise about "some" forms of racing and its fans.... the TV coverage and ratings interests keep the rules structured in a way that there are plenty of wrecks and carnage, because the fans don't want to go home from the race without having seen the "big one" where 15+ cars pile up at 180mph and at least a few get airborne, and if a driver is killed every few years everybody is sad, T-shirt and hat sales with that driver's number will go up, they'll implement some rudamentary safety measures, but the wrecks must be kept an integral part of the action because the fans want blood, drama, and twisted metal. Good close racing is not enough... they want the gladiators to kill each other... the more cautions, the better..... it's sickening.

"wear your seatbelts"...... it wasn't until the '50's or '60's the even a lap belt was used, much less a shoulder belt or 4 or 5 point harness. Fuel cells? Nah, this fuel tank that will rupture on impact will be fine. Fire suit? What's that? This cotton shirt and jeans will be fine. Roll cage? BAH!

Hey, look, lets put a big oak tree right in the runoff erea on the outside of a 100mph turn. Ask Jim Clark about the virtue of trees on the outside of turns.

Danger was and always will be part of motor racing. And YES, there is an assumed risk and each and every one of those guys knew what they were risking.

BUT, the point has always been and should still be the racing.... not the crashing and the inevitable injury and death that results, especially back then. This vid did nothing to glorify the racing... it only glorified the damage and death that resulted when it went wrong. But hey, it had a great song.

Maybe that was the point. I really don't know.
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Offline Jayhawk

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Re: When men were men...
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2011, 11:09:08 PM »
The video isn't really worthy of a lock, but the way this thread is going... well I'm in.

Yes, lets all watch with  glee as people get flung out of their cars at high
speed and die on impact.

Tell me, have you ever seen it happen in real life? You won't find it so
amusing afterwards.

Also, I didn't watch it with glee, it was more of a kind of awe of the days of past, and makes me think about some of the safety features we have today.  I find rubber playgrounds hilarious, I remember I was lucky if we got jagged rocks under our playground.  However, in the future, are our kids going to laugh about the pansy kids playing on the safety gel that absorbs all shock, and think back to the days when all they played on was recycled tires?  

Interesting video, very intriguing, it makes ya think.  However, thinking about death doesn't mean you take it lightly.
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Re: When men were men...
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2011, 11:10:21 PM »
You're one to speak.
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Re: When men were men...
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2011, 11:11:22 PM »
hell, i didnt even get to say goodbye to grandma. My parents and sister had gone to her house and i didnt want to go. She died while they were over there.I have to live with i didnt get to say goodbye to my own grandma ,who was a better mother than my own mom, because i wanted to sit down and play on this damn computer.
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Re: When men were men...
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2011, 11:12:59 PM »
  However, thinking about death doesn't mean you take it lightly.

^^^ This

EDIT: We play a game based upon killing people. If one can't stand to watch videos that contain personal injury or death, one should just stop it and move on.

There is nothing funny about dying (actually I DO know a few good jokes on the matter, but won't share them here). The video posted by the OP was one that should be viewed with a full grip of it's historical significance. Nothing more, nothing less.

EDIT2: If you want to see some rugged wipe-outs, I recommend the "Crash Impact" series. They are on Youtube.
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Re: When men were men...
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2011, 11:34:36 PM »
The bit I might say is objectionable is the stance the OP took with the title, which implies that those guys were manly men who would scoff at safety devices as compared to today's wussy men who stoop to actually using safety devices.  I think that is rubbish.

I do think that being over protective of children harms the child's development though.
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Re: When men were men...
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 08:45:51 AM »
I didn't see anything objectionable.  It's like watching old WW1 and WW2 footage.  Racing has been flirting with death it's whole history, even now.  Just ask Dale Earnhardt what Turn 4 looks like at Daytona.  Oh wait. You can't.

I appreciated the video for what it is - an example of how things used to be before lessons were learned.
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Re: When men were men...
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2011, 09:11:57 AM »
Sure are a lot of INS this weekend.

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