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Offline olds442

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Re: real gauges
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2011, 11:06:45 AM »
Quote from: colmbo on May 08, 2011, 11:05:39 AM
That's wrong...without turbochargers you can get up well over 42-44 inches at Sea Level.  The B-17 I flew did not have working turbochargers, the numbers I poster are without a working turbocharger.
if i rember the B17G had suprerchargers and turbos
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2011, 11:13:24 AM »
Quote from: olds442 on May 08, 2011, 11:06:45 AM
if i rember the B17G had suprerchargers and turbos

Yes, the supercharger is built into the engine, you have no control of it.
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2011, 11:15:32 AM »
Quote from: colmbo on May 08, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
Yes, the supercharger is built into the engine, you have no control of it.
well im taking this book to one of my friends who knows just bout everything bout the B17 (his gradfather flew one)

also he has A2A simulations so he can test there
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2011, 01:04:33 PM »
Quote from: olds442 on May 08, 2011, 11:15:32 AM
well im taking this book to one of my friends who knows just bout everything bout the B17 (his gradfather flew one)

also he has A2A simulations so he can test there

If you haven't figured it out yet, colmbo flew one too.

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Re: real gauges
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2011, 03:34:46 PM »
Quote from: AWwrgwy on May 08, 2011, 01:04:33 PM
If you haven't figured it out yet, colmbo flew one too.

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i know but i think we are not understanding each other
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Quote from: Skuzzy on August 18, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2011, 08:53:11 PM »
Quote from: Flayed on May 08, 2011, 02:57:09 AM
So HT I'm assuming this is engine oil that is running down to fill the gauge?   If so is that how you decide when it's best to change the oil?     Some how I'm picturing you sitting there flying along and looking at it going "Hmm getting a lil dark batter get it changed when I land." lol   Or maybe your one of the "Ahh  it's not tar yet, got a few more hours of run time in it." :P

 Sorry just funny random thoughts popping into my head. :)

You generally want to change it every certain amount of hours, I can't tell the the exact amount as that would depend on the engine.
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2011, 05:40:18 PM »
Quote from: olds442 on May 08, 2011, 03:34:46 PM
i know but i think we are not understanding each other

no, your not listening to what he is saying, therefore assuming he is wrong and you don't believe him, so your friends grandfather is going to run tests on it, just to most likely tell you the same thing.
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2011, 05:49:34 PM »
Quote from: BowHTR on May 10, 2011, 05:42:28 PM
no, your not listening to what he is saying, therefore assuming he is wrong and you don't believe him, so your friends grandfather is going to run tests on it, just to most likely tell you the same thing.
<sigh>

the book was right it was labeling it werid that is at a very high alt
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2011, 07:34:21 AM »
so this "book" out smarted HiTech who has over 1K of flight time and it out smarted colmbo which im sure has numerous hours in a B17. ok, yeah your book out smarted them.
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2011, 08:10:27 AM »
Quote from: BowHTR on May 11, 2011, 07:34:21 AM
so this "book" out smarted HiTech who has over 1K of flight time and it out smarted colmbo which im sure has numerous hours in a B17. ok, yeah your book out smarted them.
no its just a high alt....
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Quote from: Skuzzy on August 18, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2011, 10:41:28 AM »
Olds...what book are you getting the info from?
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2011, 10:48:11 AM »
Olds,

Perhaps you're misreading the info?  The B-17 Pilot Manual I have shows that with the R-1820-97 engine in the B-17F and G you can maintain 46 inches of MP all the way up to 27,000 where you become limited by turbocharger turbine RPM (can't exceed 22,400).  You can maintain 41.5 inches MP up to 30,000 and 35.2 inches MP up to 35000.
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2011, 11:16:27 AM »
Quote from: colmbo on May 11, 2011, 10:41:28 AM
Olds...what book are you getting the info from?
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Quote from: colmbo on May 11, 2011, 10:48:11 AM
Olds,

Perhaps you're misreading the info?  The B-17 Pilot Manual I have shows that with the R-1820-97 engine in the B-17F and G you can maintain 46 inches of MP all the way up to 27,000 where you become limited by turbocharger turbine RPM (can't exceed 22,400).  You can maintain 41.5 inches MP up to 30,000 and 35.2 inches MP up to 35000.
and yes i belive i am

there is a E6B in the back off the book for the B17,B24,B25and B29

I THINK im doing the E6B worng
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Quote from: Skuzzy on August 18, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
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Re: real gauges
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2011, 11:38:04 AM »
At least one of the reasons for the RPM limit on the turbo is that the turbine wheel "buckets" can come apart spraying shrapnel around.  On the B-17 it isn't too bad since the turbos are pretty much below the airplane, but on the B-24 it was a very bad thing, especially if the #3 turbo came apart.  It was pretty much along the midline of the fuselage abeam the bomb bay and nearly all of the hydraulic lines are along the right wall of the bombbay.  Nothing like  shooting yourself down.  :D

On the B-24 there is a very slight lip around the perimeter of the turbine wheel to help contain them.  That lip isn't present in the photo of a B-17 turbo.

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Re: real gauges
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2011, 07:03:07 PM »
Quote from: Reaper90 on May 07, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
Oh dear lord..... whatever.  :huh

By all means, continue with the completely pointless thread about something that means absolutely zero to the playability of the game, on a subject that has been discussed many times.....

How about next give us a thread complaining about how the compass in AH works backwards from a real one in an aircraft.

I apologize. I forgot that you owned this thread.  :rolleyes:

It is a sim right?
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