P-43 Lancer

[TwinBoom]

+1 to those who always offer options to folks plane & vehicle wish requests. 

+1 for trolls

I simply said its of the same time "C.A.F." Faster and has better firepower

don't think 43 had 4 50`s as stated 2 tops

[Karnak]

your telling me if its "hard" to be modeled it cant be added

I am saying that the P-47M took no new 3D artwork, being identical to one of the P-47Ds,  to be added and thus was almost a free additional aircraft whereas the P-43 would be an entirely new piece of artwork and therefor much more laborious to add.

When I look at the very extensive list of US aircraft and the scant list of Russian and Japanese aircraft, "We need a rare US aircraft added!" is not what springs to mind.  The Ki-43 may not excite you, but it was a major participant in WWII with 5900 produced.  It was the mainstay fighter of the IJAAF until late 1944/early 1945 when the Ki-84 supplanted it.

[TwinBoom]

When I look at the very extensive list of US aircraft and the scant list of Russian and Japanese aircraft, "We need a rare US aircraft added!" is not what springs to mind.  The Ki-43 may not excite you, but it was a major participant in WWII with 5900 produced.  It was the mainstay fighter of the IJAAF until late 1944/early 1945 when the Ki-84 supplanted it.

vultee would be a good add to fight the ki43

[Masherbrum]

Ki-43, He-111, Beau and the I.A.R. 81c.

[Karnak]

As an aside, I can understand why people would advocate for some super or quasi-super plane like the P-63 over a scenario plane like the Ki-43, but I really don't understand why they would be so insistent on a hangar queen like the P-43 over a historically important hangar queen like the Ki-43.

Both the P-43 and Ki-43 would be hangar queens, of that there can be no doubt, but one was a major participant and the other was a minor participant and it should be damned obvious which should be added first.

[Seadog36]

vultee would be a good add to fight the ki43

Twinboom, he is going to blow a gasket pushing his Ki agenda on a Lancer thread. It's as predictable as He 111, Beau and PBY requests on everyone else's legitimate or exploratory request. Ki only got 2x 12.7mm in late '44. 1/2 the firepower of a FM2 at it's most fearsome. No wonder our highest scoring aces were in the Pacific. And talk about laborious to add, so much 3D artwork, good thing HTC are professionals at that.

P-66 was an interesting one, cool lines. I do think P-43 would see a lot of action in EW, and Karnak I do agree with you, the Ki-43 was undoubtedly a very significant and pertinent.

+1 Troll baiting

[Karnak]

Seadog,

Ki-43 got two 12.7mm guns in late 1941/early 1942.  They aren't too horrible to use. I've shot down a Hurricane IIc and a C-47 on the same flight with just the same two 12.7mm guns on the Ki-84 after my 20mm guns ran dry.  The Hurri IIc would have been a lot easier in the Ki-43-II as well as I wouldn't have had to BnZ the Hurri's E out, would have been able to just park on its tail and shoot it down.

Given your source's failure on the Ki-43, I wonder if TwinBoom's comment about the P-43 only having two .50s is true as well.


For the MA, I'd like to see the J2M or Ki-44-II.

[Guppy35]

OK, let's get serious here.  There is a reason the P43 didn't get into combat with the USAAF.  You guys claiming it's some sort of beast need to go re-read the history a bit.

Far too many other birds before the P43 would ever be needed in AH.  You can make a far stronger case for the P36/Hawk 75.  That one at least made it's presence felt in lots of places.

[Ack-Ack]

+1 somthing that could kill another plane unlike the ki43

The Ki-43 couldn't kill anything? 

ack-ack

[Seadog36]

Seadog,

Ki-43 got two 12.7mm guns in late 1941/early 1942.  They aren't too horrible to use. I've shot down a Hurricane IIc and a C-47 on the same flight with just the same two 12.7mm guns on the Ki-84 after my 20mm guns ran dry.  The Hurri IIc would have been a lot easier in the Ki-43-II as well as I wouldn't have had to BnZ the Hurri's E out, would have been able to just park on its tail and shoot it down.

Given your source's failure on the Ki-43, I wonder if TwinBoom's comment about the P-43 only having two .50s is true as well.


For the MA, I'd like to see the J2M or Ki-44-II.

There are numerous sources of 4x .50 on the P-43  http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/aircraft/fighter/republic-p-43-lancer.asp

With their superior ceiling they often flew top cover for short winded P-40s and intercepted high altitude re-con aircraft

Here is another excellent reference with the combat history of the P-43 (and P-66) in the AVG and CAF  http://www.warbirdforum.com/dunnp431.htm  ~with yet another citation of 4x .50s

Enjoy

[Karnak]

With only 272 built, per Wikipedia, I doubt that they "often" did anything.

Would it be nice to have it eventually?  Sure, but I think, given we are picking between hangar queens here, that the Ki-43 offers more to the game.  At least in the Ki-43 you know you are supreme in at least one category, it would out turn anything, save perhaps the D3A and B6N.

[EskimoJoe]

This is a wishlist, why bother arguing?

[Soulyss]

This is a wishlist, why bother arguing?

Because the wishlist is part of the BBS.

[DemonFox]

-1 for both due to the fact neither are particularly special or great.
+1 for PBY-5A that would be special unique and could be used as medium bomber and torpedo bomber.
      

[Karnak]

This is a wishlist, why bother arguing?

We are a small portion of the player base who, thinking we have more influence than we do, like to tell HTC what we think the priorities should be.  In my case, I think the P-43 shouldn't even be mentioned until a great number of other aircraft have been added.  In some other cases, apparently, the players think our great dearth of American aircraft needs to be addressed before anything non-American is added.

-1 for both due to the fact neither are particularly special or great.
+1 for PBY-5A that would be special unique and could be used as medium bomber and torpedo bomber.
      

If you were asking for a flying boat that would be useful in the MA I could understand your request, but the PBY-5 would bring no more than the Sunderland or Emily and be far, far less usable.

Ki-43, Pe-2, Beaufighter, Wellington and He111 were all produced in mass numbers and, the Ki-43 in particular and in my opinion, ought to have been added to AH long ago.  Fighter vs Fighter performance being a far more significant aspect of AH than Bomber vs Bomber performance.