Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa ("Oscar")

[Krusty]

Yak3 wasn't much different from Yak9, and came later. It filled no holes in the planeset.

While I would love to see the Ki-43 as well I don't think we need to mope about the poll. Flawed as any poll in this game is, "weighting it" or anything of the sort is a terrible idea. Especially considering 99.9999% of all EW/MW is statspadding. I think the Ki43 has a big role to play in AH but not for the EW arena. For scenarios. For mixing up with later planes.

Nothing stops you from flying EW/MW planes in the LWA. In fact you can get certain advantages, since most later planes turn far worse than the earlier variants.

The thing about the poll is it's not the end of the discussion. It's not the last plane HTC will add. It's just the "next" plane. Look at all the new variants they've added just recently without asking, without polling, without announcing in advance.

They are still working to add new planes (some badly needed!) to this game, regardless of what the poll says. Ki-43 will have its' day.

[USBP1969]

Flawed as any poll in this game is, "weighting it" or anything of the sort is a terrible idea.

Well Krusty, I have been reading and re-reading that one.  It's a "head scratcher" for sure.

That AH even has a poll is unique, and I have to believe that they have a genuine desire to see what the subscribers want.

As I stated earlier, the Ki-43 was so numerous and played such a significant roll in WW-II, that it not being in the original lineup is surprising. (At least to me)

Respectfully,
USBP1969

[USBP1969]

Especially considering 99.9999% of all EW/MW is statspadding.

Wow!  There are some "regulars" in EW / MW that would take great issue with that statement. Some perhaps would even take it as a personal affront.

USBP1969

[Butcher]

Wow!  There are some "regulars" in EW / MW that would take great issue with that statement. Some perhaps would even take it as a personal affront.

USBP1969

Some regulars.... I could probably count all of them on two hands for both arenas, in reality its always been known for stats padding or perk farming.
Only reason I go in EW/MWA is perk farming, one or two flights is enough perks for a B29, if I get lucky I can hash out enough perks for drones in 2 flights.

Other then that its always been used to pad stats for the main page.

[Tank-Ace]

Weighting it is a terrible idea, because its not a true representation of what people want. Its just saying "since fewer people fly in EW/MW, we're making their oppinions worth more".


If people don't want a Ki-43 that would see limited use once the 'new' wore off (and it WOULD see limited use outside of the SEA's and EW/MW, none of the "but what about this specific scenario where you NEED turn rate and nothing else will get you out of trouble" comments change that), thats their concern, not anyone elses.


Although I agree with you about the EW/MW needing some love, I would disagree that that love should come in the form of aircraf. Our EW GV set is basicly non-existant, and our MW GV set is a little lacking.

[Mitsu.]

haha, if it had 20mm cannons not 12.7mm MGs...AH people want it. 

[Lusche]

I'm a bit late, but only now spotted:

Perhaps the voting should be "weighted" with an A/C that will be flown in EW & MW (mostly) being given a multiplier, based on the usual populations of the arena(s) in which the A/C will be used most.

Wouldn't change anything, as

a) Basically all planes are used the most in LW and

b) for example EW has only about 0.5% of the activity LW has.

So the vote would have been "weighted" so much, you could drop it alltogether.

[Butcher]

I can tell you why the Ki-43 wasn't voted in Aces High, I rarely see anyone land kills in a plane above 25 eny in the Late War Arena, let
alone anything with only a pair of 12.7mm's. Someone made a bet with me last tour and I landed 7 in a C202 - with just the pair of Breta's in the nose.

Problem is most don't have that kind of aim, let alone want a plane with simply a pair of "MG's in the nose". most dogfighters would love this sort of setup, problem is why take up a Ki-43 when I can get a Brewster with 4x50 cals?

My idea is the plane is simply to SLOW, way to high of ENY, with no GUN'S, and nobody is willing to vote on it, should it of been added in Aces High?
The Ki-43 should of been added in Aces high long ago with the He-111 which both are instrumental to World War 2 and should of been added already in game.

Now I wouldn't rush and create the Ki-43, with the handful I see land kills in something above 25 Eny, I highly doubt the trend of "ignoring higher eny" aircraft is going to break anytime soon the late war arena, although us handful that test them against late war will stand by our decision,
you don't see many 30+ eny aces in the Late war Arena, so adding the Ki-43 will not effect anything other then fill a few scenario slots or FSO.

Game Changer? nope.

[Lusche]

Hijack!

I can tell you why the Ki-43 wasn't voted in Aces High, I rarely see anyone land kills in a plane above 25 eny in the Late War Arena

Though the usage of 25+ ENY planes is somewhat higher than indicated by the landing messages, as they simply less often survive long enough to actually land the kills they gained.


Usage (Kills+Deaths) 2010:

[Debrody]

I know a couple who can and did land 10+ in an eny30 plane.

Anyway, the ki-43 would be boring for one reason: the tactic used against it.
Two 12,7mm mgs isnt enough to hurt your opponent fatally since possibly he will just dive away or on the deck hit the wep and stick stir away.
Dont let me wrong, i would like to see this plane, just saying there is this kind of danger.

[Lusche]

Anyway, the ki-43 would be boring for one reason: the tactic used against it.
Two 12,7mm mgs isnt enough to hurt your opponent fatally since possibly he will just dive away or on the deck hit the wep and stick stir away.

I do agree very much with the second part, in most LW engagements this will happen. Even worse, the Ki-43 would have to fight the "friendlies" as much as the enemies. Because while you are saddling up and trying to inflict catastrophic damage to your enemy, the faster late war rides will swoop down and clear your 12.

But for me that would mean using the Ki-43 exactly  in the same context as I did with Hurricane I and the I-16: In base defense vs CV attacks. That's the perfect environment for such a plane.

[matt]

+1

[icepac]

If it is brought in, I would hope it can turn with a brewster.

[Karnak]

If it is brought in, I would hope it can turn with a brewster.

It would out turn the B239.

[Volron]

How would it fair against the A6M2?