He177

[iron650]

The He177 was both a divebomber and a level bomber. The He177 participated in Operation Steinbock and a daylight bomber of the Eastern Front. The He177 was comparable to the B-29 Superfortress. They were the long-ranged bombers used by the Luftwaffe. The were both internal and external bombs.

Armament:
48 50kg bombs
1 2,500kg bombs
12 250kg bombs
6 500 kg bombs
2 1,800kg bombs
10 500kg bombs
6 1000kg bombs
2 LT 50 torpedoes on external racks



Guns:
1 7.92mm MG81 gun in nose
1 20mm MG151 cannon in foward ventral gondola position
2 7.92m MG81 in rear ventral gondola position
2 13mm MG131 in a remotely operated forward dorsal turret 360 degree traverse
1 13mm MG131 in aft dorsal turret
1 20mm MG151 cannon in tail position




Characteristics:
Crew 6
31.44 meters
6.40 height
101.99 meter squared wing area
empty weight 16,800 kg
Loaded weight 27,200kg
Powerplant: 2× Daimler-Benz DB 610 24-cylinder liquid-cooled inline piston engines, 2,900 PS each
Max speed 565km/h at 19,000 ft
Rate of climb 623 ft a minute
Stall speed 135 km/h


I think it would be useful because it would make a long range bomber and help close the gap in the German bomber gap. Also, the bomber may be sluggish. Also, the plane can adapt to level bombing and dive bombing.

[MachFly]

Eventually it would be a good idea to have it, but first I think we need the He 111 & Do 17. They had a greater impact on the war. Also a remodeled Ju 88 would be nice.

[iron650]

Personally, we need more German bombers.

[MachFly]

Personally, we need more German bombers.

Agreed.

I'd love to shoot them with my Spit14   

[iron650]

Agreed.

I'd love to shoot them with my Spit14   

I'll fly the He177 and try to gun you down. 

[matt]

+1


                        flakhapy

[Debrody]

Agreed.

I'd love to shoot them with my Spit14   

haha   you have balls ten risking the perks facing with the 20mm   
anyway, been discussed several times even only this year...

[olds442]

The He177 was both a divebomber and a level bomber. The He177 participated in Operation Steinbock and a daylight bomber of the Eastern Front. The He177 was comparable to the B-29 Superfortress. They were the long-ranged bombers used by the Luftwaffe. The were both internal and external bombs.

Armament:
48 50kg bombs
1 2,500kg bombs
12 250kg bombs
6 500 kg bombs
2 1,800kg bombs
10 500kg bombs
6 1000kg bombs
2 LT 50 torpedoes on external racks



Guns:
1 7.92mm MG81 gun in nose
1 20mm MG151 cannon in foward ventral gondola position
2 7.92m MG81 in rear ventral gondola position
2 13mm MG131 in a remotely operated forward dorsal turret 360 degree traverse
1 13mm MG131 in aft dorsal turret
1 20mm MG151 cannon in tail position




Characteristics:
Crew 6
31.44 meters
6.40 height
101.99 meter squared wing area
empty weight 16,800 kg
Loaded weight 27,200kg
Powerplant: 2× Daimler-Benz DB 610 24-cylinder liquid-cooled inline piston engines, 2,900 PS each
Max speed 565km/h at 19,000 ft
Rate of climb 623 ft a minute
Stall speed 135 km/h


I think it would be useful because it would make a long range bomber and help close the gap in the German bomber gap. Also, the bomber may be sluggish. Also, the plane can adapt to level bombing and dive bombing.

YES YES! YEZZZZZZZZZZ!  

[iron650]

If this got in the game you think it would be perked?

YES YES! YEZZZZZZZZZZ!   

[StokesAk]

help close the gap in the German bomber gap.

To be honest, we don't need another heavy bomber. With all the historical events that I have flown in I still have yet to see one where Germany is in need of another bomber, the Ju88 does fine.

As for filling a gap, the He-111 is needed more so because of its extensive use early in the war and mainly the Battle of Britain.

[Debrody]

To be honest, we don't need another heavy bomber. With all the historical events that I have flown in I still have yet to see one where Germany is in need of another bomber, the Ju88 does fine.
As for filling a gap, the He-111 is needed more so because of its extensive use early in the war and mainly the Battle of Britain.

who would fly a plane in the late war (where the large majority of the action happens) what was an easy kill for even a spit1?   //ju-188 

[Lusche]

As for filling a gap, the He-111 is needed more so because of its extensive use early in the war and mainly the Battle of Britain.

EW arena is about empty, more than 90% of all combat happens in LW arena anyway. BOB scenario occurs how often? LW players & squadrons do have to be contend with a slow, weak defended bomber for years. I'm not against the HE 111 as such, but saying it fills a bigger gap than a mid / late war plane like Ju 188, Do 217 or He 177 borders on ridiculousness

[alpini13]

+1 for he -177 ju-188.do 217

[iron650]

+1 for he -177 ju-188.do 217

same as alpini said 

To be honest, we don't need another heavy bomber. With all the historical events that I have flown in I still have yet to see one where Germany is in need of another bomber, the Ju88 does fine.

I have flown a Ju88. I get shot down due to lack of defensive guns. I haven't had one Ju88 sortie where I got shot down.

[Karnak]

Only problem I have with the He177 is that AH would turn what was one of the worst bombers of WWII into what might well be the best unperked bomber in AH.  It is absurd.

I would love to see the Ju188 though.