Author Topic: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136  (Read 1375 times)

Offline lyric1

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2011, 12:50:34 PM »
  Or if possible use my toe break to slow the tank automatically through the gears.   
I like that. :aok

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2011, 01:03:24 PM »
Or if possible use my toe break to slow the tank automatically through the gears.  
I like that. :aok

I have mapped my GV gears to toe brakes (CH pro pedals)  and use the right one to accelerate and the left to slow down/ reverse, steering by rudder axis. In this respect I find it dead easy to drive a tank from the commanders position. the only downside is I had to map my aircraft brakes to a key press rather than analog axis, but they seem to work just as well that way.

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2011, 01:06:07 PM »
I have mapped my GV gears to toe brakes (CH pro pedals)  and use the right one to accelarate and the left to slow down/ reverse, steering by rudder axis. In this respect I find it dead easy to drive a tank from the commanders position. the only downside is I had to map my aircraft brakes to a key press rather than analog axis, but they seem to work just as well that way.
I like the breaks for the aircraft on the pedals don't think I will change that.

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2011, 01:07:19 PM »
As a grumpy 56 year old AH'er with the reactions of a brick and the eyesight of a bat I used to get most of my AH fun gv'ing. OK the zoom sights are not realistic, but neither is a lot of stuff in this game, its meant to be fun not a job. I have one of those for 10 hours a day thanks.

Anyway, seems I'm not the only one. OK it's early days, but the stats tell me a lot of people don't like the new set up and I wonder how many of the old gits like me have left, there's quite a few of the haggard old GVers I havent seen a round for a while. I have done 14 hours this tour, thats about 1/2 normal, I'm having trouble having the enthusiasm to log on, and I'm not the only one it seems.

63% drop in GV kills! - tells me HTC have got this one wrong.

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you jumped at this conclusion based on the same assumption juggler did. you just looked at the numbers, and you both were proven wrong.  I only posted the gv kills on the other thread just as a possible reason, but not to say that people dont like the new gv model.  some people are never gonna go back to gv's, oh well.  most of us will just adapt.  after all HT already said we are not going back to the old way.

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2011, 01:42:10 PM »
I have mapped my GV gears to toe brakes (CH pro pedals)  and use the right one to accelerate and the left to slow down/ reverse, steering by rudder axis. In this respect I find it dead easy to drive a tank from the commanders position. the only downside is I had to map my aircraft brakes to a key press rather than analog axis, but they seem to work just as well that way.



can't you just have different control modes?

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2011, 02:01:42 PM »
can't you just have different control modes?

Yes.

Mode 1--> Plane toe brakes
Mode 2--> That other thing Blagard has mapped


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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2011, 02:27:11 PM »
Give it time, and let the new version be judged … It took Coca-cola three whole months to realize that the “New Coke” recipe was a total failure.
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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2011, 03:16:15 PM »
  I like Tanks , The biggest problem with GVing IMHO is finding a good place to do it on a map. Some of these maps are horrible for gv fights I.E. LONG drives to the base or very few places to spawn in to to take the LONG drive to the base. Drops ords , return , up a gv and the ords pop right about when you get to the town/base   :( .

for the record I like the new gv stuff I can drive and shoot from the hatch , Can hit most things out to 1000 without using the sights.  :salute
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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2011, 03:30:43 PM »
As Consiglieri,the Godfather has instructed me to ask that you make a pie chart as a favor to him.



I strongly suggest you make one for him now.

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2011, 04:02:59 PM »
can't you just have different control modes?

Yes, as AWwrgwy has said.
In mode 1(Aircraft)
My Toes brakes in aircraft are mapped to keys C & V (the default), I used to have them on the analog brake axis for the toes, but CH gear lets you change the toe axis to a key press instead.

In mode 2 (GV's)
My toes brakes are still programmed to C & V  so I simply remapped the GV  S(brake/reverse)  and W(accelerate) to C and V instead.
The range dial was on C and V in GV's so I had to change that (remap AH Gunner) but thats all.

I like the brakes for the aircraft on the pedals don't think I will change that.

I haven't, I still have them on the pedals
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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2011, 09:08:40 PM »
  I like Tanks , The biggest problem with GVing IMHO is finding a good place to do it on a map. Some of these maps are horrible for gv fights I.E. LONG drives to the base or very few places to spawn in to to take the LONG drive to the base. Drops ords , return , up a gv and the ords pop right about when you get to the town/base   :( .

for the record I like the new gv stuff I can drive and shoot from the hatch , Can hit most things out to 1000 without using the sights.  :salute

The long drives arent all that long. Certainly no longer then it would take to fly a plane there. And provides more of an area to actually have a more realistic tank battle rather then just whack a mole. You have to fight your way in or meet and beat back the attacking force
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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2011, 09:11:13 PM »

  some people are never gonna go back to gv's, oh well.  most of us will just adapt.  after all HT already said we are not going back to the old way.

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On the other hand. Some folks like me are now playing in GVs far far more then we/I have in years
so while it may be said that some people wont GV again. It can also be said that people that werent GVing before. Now are.

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2011, 09:19:22 PM »
And we have to keep in mind that the current tour will end up with like ~300,000 kills total, whereas the previous had ~479,000. That's an almost 40% reduction in everything ;)

If one does such a comparison, he has compare different data to the same base :)


Couple of questions: a 40 percent reduction in overall kills? What's up with that? Also, over 12,000 posts since 2005, Lusche, don't you work? Man, you need to get a life, or discover women or religion or something besides computer screens and AH.

I do, however, agree that we need to give vehicle changes a while to grow on folks. Give it a couple of months and see if after we've actually learned to use them they are better or worse.

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2011, 09:43:30 PM »
Couple of questions: a 40 percent reduction in overall kills? What's up with that?

last tour reset coming almost a week late had a big impact. So last tour was much longer and this one will be much shorter. That's the main reason. (We do have less players/activity this tour too, but not as much at it may seem at first)



Also, over 12,000 posts since 2005, Lusche, don't you work?

Only 5.5 posts per day. ;)

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Re: 63% drop in GV kills tour 135 to 136
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2011, 11:03:52 AM »
Is a reduction in number of kills a very good metric really?

Is it possible that the new GV system makes it easier to break spawn camps?  If guys aren't getting killed, reupping, getting killed, reupping nearly as much because spawn camping is harder, that alone could cause a reduction in kills in a given tour without an actual reduction of people playing in GVs.

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