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Offline FBLazy1

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Re: P40F
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2011, 09:18:08 AM »
+1 :aok .

To any upgrade or new P40 variant (one of the most underrated planes in AHII)  :devil

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Re: P40F
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2011, 11:15:29 AM »
p-40 with a merlin engine in it im all for that. :salute
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Re: P40F
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2011, 11:41:29 AM »
I not saying we shouldn't have more models of the P-40 but I'd rather see out current P-40 re-modeled. I know that P-40E that served in north Africa had bomb racks to carry 6 250lb bombs.
 :aok either way I'd be happy more aircraft!  :joystick:
absolutely amazing...wonder how they got it to do that?  :headscratch:



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Specifications P-40E:
Aircraft Type: One Crew Single Engined Fighter Country of Origin: United States of America Engines: 1 x Allison V-1710-39 12 cylinder liquid cooled piston engine rated at 1,150hp at 3,000 rpm Armament: 6 x 0.50 in Colt-Browning M2 machine guns. Plus 1 x 500lb bomb on fuselage centreline and 2 x 100lb bombs under the wings. Dimensions: Wing Span: 11.38m (37ft 4 in). Length: 9.68m (31ft 9in), Height: 3.76m (12ft 4in). Wing Area: 21.92 sq. metres (236 sq. feet) Weights: Empty: 2880kg (6,350lb). Max Takeoff: 4131kg (9,100lb) Performance: Max Speed: 362 mph (582 km/hour) at 15,000ft (4,575m) Max Range: 525 miles (845km) Operators: USAAF, RAF


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P-40F
The P-40F, called the Kittyhawk II (also the Goshawk) was a major improvement in handling, although more power was not available. The ones shipped to Russia were equipped with the Packard built 1,300 hp V-1615-1 Rolls-Royce Merlin engine. All others used an Allison engine. This boosted the maximum airspeed to 364 mph (582 km/h). Range was 610 miles (976 km). The Kittyhawks had a major modification in their armaments, with the cowl-mounted machine guns removed and all guns upgraded to six 50 caliber machine guns in the wings. It could also carry a 500 lb bomb or a long-range fuel tank on the center-line, and 250 lbs of bombs under each wing (6 lb and 40 lb anti-personnel bomb clusters were also carried in North Africa).

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Re: P40F
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2011, 12:28:20 PM »
Ah yes Gyrene I missed you to!  :rofl
But the P-40E was fielded modded with bomb racks. This field mod was the reason that the P-40F could carry 6 bombs is at least what I read.   :aok

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/P03372.011_kittybomber.jpg

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Re: P40F
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2011, 12:41:21 PM »
sadly, field mods are not accepted into the game.

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Re: P40F
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2011, 01:26:59 PM »
Ah yes Gyrene I missed you to!  :rofl
But the P-40E was fielded modded with bomb racks. This field mod was the reason that the P-40F could carry 6 bombs is at least what I read.   :aok

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/P03372.011_kittybomber.jpg
come on demonfox...look what you wrote...P-40e carried 6 250lbs bombs in africa...didn't happen. now you're saying the p-40f was the culprit, according to wikipedia.

you need to stay away from wikipedia...if you had done a little more research, you would have found that those are either 60 lbs or 100 lbs bombs...not 250lbs bombs...the odd circular fin stabilizer rings almost make them look like practice bombs.
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Re: P40F
« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2011, 01:52:46 PM »
No, they really were used that way in the SEA. RAAF or RNZAAF used them like that. In Africa and other areas they stuck to the standard setup of 2 wing shackles and a centerline.

Here's one I think is 112 Squadron in/around Italy (late model, most likely a P-40M with allison engine and longer tail, maybe a P-40N?)


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Re: P40F
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2011, 02:00:03 PM »
I actually didn't get my info from wiki only the picture. I got the info from a book I have about WWII in north Africa. And the reason they have the strange circle stabilizer is because it's British. If you go look all British 500lb and 250lb are that way. And yes I'm almost posative it's a Echo model. Could be the November model Krusty said that has bomb racks installed on the wings and center line.

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Re: P40F
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2011, 02:27:58 PM »
Believe that is a pic of a P-40N - the unusual slanted base of the lower canopy frame is an N characteristic.

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Re: P40F
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2011, 02:29:45 PM »
Believe that is a pic of a P-40N - the unusual slanted base of the lower canopy frame is an N characteristic.

The picture is too over-exposed to make out that area. What you are seeing could very well be a light reflection, glare, etc. I discounted that when trying to ID the plane. N does make most sense, but I didn't think we exported many of those to the Brits, eh?

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Re: P40F
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2011, 02:35:08 PM »
To clarify, I'm talking about the lower frame of the sliding section of the canopy, not the area under the canopy behind the pilot's head (though that was unusual in the 'N' as well). 

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Re: P40F
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2011, 03:40:32 PM »
Ahhh, good call. I think that cinches it, for sure!

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Re: P40F
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2011, 10:13:37 PM »
Most definately a P40N :)

I'd posted a photo of another RAF P40N with that bombload up thread a bit.
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Re: P40F
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2011, 11:02:51 PM »
Most definately a P40N :)

I'd posted a photo of another RAF P40N with that bombload up thread a bit.
where guppy? i only see the 250s on the wings and 500 on the centerline...one has 3 tube rocket launchers on the wings
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Re: P40F
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2011, 12:26:55 AM »
where guppy? i only see the 250s on the wings and 500 on the centerline...one has 3 tube rocket launchers on the wings

I was referring to the RAF P40N photo with the 500 pounder and 250 pounders under the wings taking off, and the one I posted of the same loadout I posted.

In terms of the six bombs on the wings of a P40.  Photo evidence of this on 79th FG P40F, also on a CBI P40E.  They were listed as either 20 or 30 pound bombs.  They carried a 500 pounder on the centerline

There are also photos of PTO P40Ns with the 3 pylon bomb loads, both RAAF and USAAF
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