Westland Whirlwind

[Karnak]

The Westland Whirlwind should be extremely far ahead of the Catalina.  The Catalina simply has no role in AH and none of the proposed roles for it are good ideas or useful.  This includes scenario use.

[nrshida]

Well I agree with you that wikipedia can be cobblers...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Whirlwind_(fighter)

but it does say it ended service in 1943 and only 2 squadrons flew it. 6000 Beaufighters were built, I'm not sure if that includes the DAP Beaufighter. Still I don't disagree, it's a lovely plane and would look good in AH.

A lot of the criteria which players bicker over about which should be included before something else for historical significance or any other criteria is, well, simply player's opinion and assertion. One look at the current planeset shows that isn't the only or even necessarily a massively significant factor. This game's historical aspect is rather undermined for instance by most of the gameplay having allied planes fight allied planes and so on (events aside).

I'd rather have the Whirlwind than the Beaufighter because I think I'd have more fun in it and enjoy seeing how competitive I could make it against 'better' fighters. That said I hope you also get your Beaufighter  

[Karnak]

I am pretty sure that in a duel the Whirlwind would dominate a Beaufighter.  It is probably a better fighter than any twin engined fighter in the game other than the P-38s and Mossie for duels.  Might even be better than the P-38G and Mossie for duels, but I suspect their speed and climb rates would overpower it.

[nrshida]

I am pretty sure that in a duel the Whirlwind would dominate a Beaufighter.  It is probably a better fighter than any twin engined fighter in the game other than the P-38s and Mossie for duels.  Might even be better than the P-38G and Mossie for duels, but I suspect their speed and climb rates would overpower it.

I didn't mean to compare the Whirlwind to the Beaufighter Karnak, just meant I'd rather have a quirky fighter than an attack aircraft, personally.

I think my longest proper shot in a Mossie was about 1000 yards which is 3000 feet (I'm thinking UP here) and the guns are even more densely mounted. Short clip of course but you'd have to say that's a dangerous weapons layout at a longer range than standard?

Perhaps wishful thinking. Anyway, despite the popularity of this thread and the magnificent contributions and the potential of something completely different, I don't rate the chances of us actually getting the Whirlwind very highly

[Karnak]

No, probably not.

I do suspect we'll see a Beaufighter sooner rather than later though.  The last vote placed like so:

1) Me410
2) Yak-3
3) Beaufighter
4) Meteor

There is a funny thing about the planes in the #1 and #2 spots.....

As to threads, there is a Beaufighter thread that is more than twice as long if I recall correctly.


For what its worth, I'd personally get more use out of the Whirlwind.

[nrshida]

No, probably not.

I do suspect we'll see a Beaufighter sooner rather than later though.  The last vote placed like so:

1) Me410
2) Yak-3
3) Beaufighter
4) Meteor

There is a funny thing about the planes in the #1 and #2 spots.....

As to threads, there is a Beaufighter thread that is more than twice as long if I recall correctly.


For what its worth, I'd personally get more use out of the Whirlwind.

I found the first Whirlwind Wishlist thread also dated about ten years ago. About the same time as the first Beaufighter thread.

Well it's a Wishlist, we can still wish and I think this is an epic thread 

[bustr]

Don't vote Hitech out dropping this thing on us as the HTC random choice for whatever reasons he has decided we need something. Not to insult this audience but, look at the Brewster and the years of effort by a few. Then one day there it was. The Whirlwind will probably be a watch what you ask for, it may not be what you expected moment. He111 comes to mind.

After such a long post over this ride. The posts in the first week after it's introduced should be epic. I have to admit from a LWMA standpoint. I'm not sure what you would use it for, other than to showcase your real expertise and skill for translating ACM prowess into any ride you choose. That would be worth seeing. I doubt this will be a beginners ride.

As for the Beau. Historically it has a good place waiting for it in the game. Maybe your bribe deliveries aren't making it to the new office in Ft. Worth........

[Baggy]

I think we all know what to expect from the Whirlwind, it's an airframe introduced in 1940 and not developed any further, so it will certainly struggle in the LWMA. I think behind the Beaufighter it would be an interesting addition.

[Karnak]

He111 is pretty much exactly what I expected of it.  So is the Me410.

[JUGgler]

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[Tank-Ace]

Slow beast. Only 360 mph.

[nrshida]

Your K-4 is slow compared to later aircraft.

[Reaper90]

I think we all know what to expect from the Whirlwind, it's an airframe introduced in 1940 and not developed any further, so it will certainly struggle in the LWMA.

If you mean it won't be the ride of choice for runners, you're right. It will also "struggle" in that the ammo count will mean those with poor aim will be bingo sooner rather than later.

Beyond that, I don't see it "struggling" any more than the Brewster, Ki-43, or Hurri IIc. Excellent turning ability, excellent low speed handling, deadly lethal cannon package, great views, robust airframe with twin engine survivability.... think of it as a small, slower Mossie that turns like a Brewster.

It will be a challenging aircraft in the LWMA, and you won't see many of the "avoid a fight at all costs" flyers in them.

I'm totally OK with that.

[nrshida]

I'll wing with you Reaper, if and when it arrives