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Offline LCADolby

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Banshee5
« on: May 23, 2011, 12:17:04 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UP9IF6RoR0

As you requested Banshee5 I have posted the video you requested in pm and on 200
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 12:37:00 AM »
perfect 262 takedown  :D

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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 12:50:00 AM »
May not have intended to collide just get a shot as you pass.

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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 12:58:15 AM »
perfect 262 takedown  :D

You'd've thrown a spatula or a whisk at it :old:
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 02:02:34 PM »
He was probably trying to correct for the missing wing he was just inflicted, if you don't want to be rammed, don't go head on with people.  :bolt:
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 02:32:17 PM »
You'd've thrown a spatula or a whisk at it :old:

Yep...they can cause great damage when they go through a jet intake....mind you...getting them in there is another story.

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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 02:36:11 PM »
if you don't want to be rammed, don't go head on with people. 
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 02:58:03 PM »
looked like a good tackle.

when your flying a 262 you can't take a head on pass and expect to get away with it.   It looked like you were going so fast in the dive there was very little time to take the shot and get out of the way.  intentional or not I would do anything in my power to bring down an enemy 262 and laugh at you afterwards. 

You take off knowing the risks so you can't give crap to good pilots like banshee for making any attempt for a shot.

ACM is about getting clean 6 shots not a game of chicken.

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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 03:04:38 PM »
Are you saying you actively support ramming planes out of the sky Bruv? (If they are 262s)
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 03:11:30 PM »
Are you saying you actively support ramming planes out of the sky Bruv?

yes when they are in a 262.   I know when I fly it I am practically untouchable so any chance the 262 pilot gives you, you have to take it.

to be fair to banshee he turned around and opened fire before the ram so that suggests to me you either didn't see him change direction because you were closing at a rate of knots or if you did see him turn it around, you could have rolled out and not proceeded to line up the shot (playing chicken)

You also appear to hold fire well into his gun solution.   I think you could have lobbed the 30mm high and still hit him with enough room to move out of the way.

Look at it this way your doing what 500?   banshee has looped and would be close to stall, you are the one that has to give way or risk it for a chocolate biscuit.   If anything you collided with him.   :D

the kick of the rudder may have been another mistake it does nothing to change the direction of travel except skid sideways into him at the last second.  A little shove forward or pull up,  roll, duck whatever would have been better.
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2011, 03:21:21 PM »
I didn't fathom that his chocolate biscuit was going to use it's nose as a ramming device to shatter my pastry.

It wasn't until I was rammed did I hear on local it was his second 262 ram. Had I heard pre-dive, I would've pulled up at 1000 yards.

This HOing to ram, as a defence is on the increase. 262 or not, I find it dispiseable that pilots are using it as a shortcut to score kills.
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2011, 03:23:23 PM »
I didn't fathom that his chocolate biscuit was going to use it's nose as a ramming device to shatter my pastry.

It wasn't until I was rammed did I hear on local it was his second 262 ram. Had I heard pre-dive, I would've pulled up at 1000 yards.

This HOing to ram, as a defence is on the increase. 262 or not, I find it dispiseable that pilots are using it as a shortcut to score kills.

Its not a shortcut to score kills. Its a short cut to piss in your cheerios.
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2011, 03:32:38 PM »
good on him then, nothing more annoying than jet dweebs spoiling a good fight.

HO-rams have happened since day one,  two coksure fighter pilots point their guns at each other, neither breaks what do you get  ;)

People sometimes accuse me of head ons, in reality i'm zoomed in on them from way out,  if they turn to meet me then I will side step them, pass the shot up, reverse and kill.   If they think they are about to merge and I kick the rudder and kill them before they can say  "chit i just lost my 262"  then more fool them.  A Front quarter that they didn't prepare for.  I'm a firm believer in the "it takes two to HO"  philosophy.

Sometimes I get burn't because of lag or the fact they just about manage to close their turn when i'm about to fire but it looked like you chose to play chicken.  You tell us?   did you see him complete his loop or not?
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2011, 03:49:59 PM »
Contemptible nonsense.

But in answer to your question I dont remember seeing him looping up to HO me. I was more than likely checking fuel and the clipboard briefly
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Re: Banshee5
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2011, 06:31:52 PM »
As i see it, ;ack of SA to see the oncoming craft until it was to late to move resulted in a headon which Ended both pilots sorties. In the case that Banshee is at fault, he is not. It was clearly an attempt to get a shot on a high E 262. The only 2 ways to kill a 262 in this state is get a snapshot from a deflection, or go head on and hope for the best. Once the 262's tater impacted the wing of the P38 in this film there is no way he would havebeen able to change flight path even if he wanted too. The 262 on the other hand is only doing 500mph in the dive which is no where near the speed that compression or compression like symptoms start to occur. You also did not fire a shot until he was d400. At the point of impact you attempted to make a rudder adjustment to the left but let go of it just before impact. There was no evidence that you attempted to pull up or roll once you fired in any atempt to avoid the ram.

When flying a 262 you must be able to think faster than the average pilot in order to make your shots, and avoid the enemy at the increased speed.

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