Dont ground your daughter and take her cellphone away

[Yossarian]

Teenagers...

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ZOMG SOCIETY IS CRUMBLING!!!!!!!


Two things:
1) Onion
2) This thread is full of fail.  Also, who the hell actually advocates having the death penalty for children!?

[mthrockmor]

Or, just lock up the weapons first. I successfully grounded my 15-year old over grades. It was tough but I had no fear. Women folk can just plain ol be scary though!

Boo

[CAP1]

Or, just lock up the weapons first. I successfully grounded my 15-year old over grades. It was tough but I had no fear. Women folk can just plain ol be scary though!

Boo

 how was it tough? it seems pretty simple(from a non-parent perspective). simply ground them. they go to school. they have till XX time to be home after school.

[F22RaptorDude]

Or, just lock up the weapons first. I successfully grounded my 15-year old over grades. It was tough but I had no fear. Women folk can just plain ol be scary though!

Boo

When I unload the dishwasher every day sometimes my mom is watching housewives and I've often asked her if they have guards with tasers or tranquilizers behind the camera incase things get to bad, its gets scary! Also at my school girls are the ones who fight most often, 37 fights before school let out, 24 of them from girls. Its uncalled for.

[GNucks]

This thread is full of fail.  Also, who the hell actually advocates having the death penalty for children!?

I guess you would say I do. I do think there is an age where a person cannot be held 100% responsible for their actions, but I think that age is quite less than 17 or 18. If 15 and 16 year olds are going to be committing adult crimes they should be dealing with adult punishments, simple as that. Teenagers are being allowed to do all the fun things adults do with none of the consequences. Thank God they still can't vote.

EDIT: Throwing in an IMO

[CAP1]

I guess you would say I do. I do think there is an age where a person cannot be held 100% responsible for their actions, but I think that age is quite less than 17 or 18. If 15 and 16 year olds are going to be committing adult crimes they should be dealing with adult punishments, simple as that. Teenagers are being allowed to do all the fun things adults do with none of the consequences. Thank God they still can't vote.

EDIT: Throwing in an IMO

 I'D SAY that by 15, teenagers, while they don't know everything, they DO know the consequences of actions such as those in the op./

[Yossarian]

I guess you would say I do. I do think there is an age where a person cannot be held 100% responsible for their actions, but I think that age is quite less than 17 or 18. If 15 and 16 year olds are going to be committing adult crimes they should be dealing with adult punishments, simple as that. Teenagers are being allowed to do all the fun things adults do with none of the consequences. Thank God they still can't vote.

EDIT: Throwing in an IMO

I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's right that a person that young (since nobody is fully mature at that age) should face an irreversible and permanent penalty for something they've done, no matter what it is.  From another point of view, what good would it do to kill them?  People can change a lot between when they're 15/16 and when they're an adult, I know I have in many ways, and I know many other people have too.  Giving them a death penalty before they get a chance to do anything different just isn't right (in any sense of the word).

[CAP1]

I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's right that a person that young (since nobody is fully mature at that age) should face an irreversible and permanent penalty for something they've done, no matter what it is.  From another point of view, what good would it do to kill them?  People can change a lot between when they're 15/16 and when they're an adult, I know I have in many ways, and I know many other people have too.  Giving them a death penalty before they get a chance to do anything different just isn't right (in any sense of the word).

 just playing devils advocate here......but the death penalty would not be being given to them, but rather they brought that penalty to themselves.

[GNucks]

Justice for the victim is more important than sympathy for the assailant to me.

[Penguin]

...and freedom and justice for all.

Does that phrase mean anything to you?  I don't consider myself any sort of patriot, but this goes against the very rationale of our country.  How is killing this man's daughter justice for him?  Are you guys ignoring the fact that it's his kid?

-Penguin

[F22RaptorDude]

...and freedom and justice for all.

Does that phrase mean anything to you?  I don't consider myself any sort of patriot, but this goes against the very rationale of our country.  How is killing this man's daughter justice for him?  Are you guys ignoring the fact that it's his kid?

-Penguin

She was old enough to think on her own, and if she did this over a cell phone what happens if she looses a job or gets her car taken away? She doesn't need the death sentence, but she sure as hell needs some help and maybe some jail time.

[Penguin]

I wasn't arguing against any punishment whatsoever, I was arguing against locking her away for life/taking her out behind the courthouse any spraying her brains across the pavement.  However, I'd love to raise the question to the entire board:

Do you think the dad would be at least somewhat against punishing his daughter with jail time?  Why or why not?

-Penguin

[F22RaptorDude]

I wasn't arguing against any punishment whatsoever, I was arguing against locking her away for life/taking her out behind the courthouse any spraying her brains across the pavement.  However, I'd love to raise the question to the entire board:

Do you think the dad would be at least somewhat against punishing his daughter with jail time?  Why or why not?

-Penguin

Only question that comes to mind is why the hell did she have access to a crossbow and arrows? This could have been a fatality. My friend has access to 2 mosin nagant's in his closet(yes my gay friend) but he's mentally stable so I don't see a problem there. I guess he wasn't at fault because how could he have known she would do that?

[gyrene81]

...and freedom and justice for all.

Does that phrase mean anything to you? 

-Penguin

where did you get that phrase?

if the man had died i'd consider life without parole...unless my taxes have to go up to support the defendant...then forget the expensive "humane" thing, $1 can end it much more efficiently.

[Penguin]

F22, it was a crossbow?  Oh, that's so wrong, but yet so right. (Tongue in cheek)

Gyrene, in many cases, the extra appeals put out by a defendant facing the death penalty eat up the savings of not having to put them in prison.  Plus, if you're wrong, you can let them out again.

-Penguin

PS We're skirting close to Rul #14 violations, let's not get vacations