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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2011, 08:27:02 AM »
There are some PERFECT sounds for the T34 in the above vids.  If I has any skillz in making sounds for AH I'd attempt.  For now I can only hope one of the better fellas take the -real- sounds in those vids and make them into something we can use.
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2011, 09:11:55 AM »
The oscillation is simply caused by the vehicle autopilot that holds a constant heading. Do all tanks oscillate or just certain ones?

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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2011, 12:47:25 PM »
I get this strange feeling that Chef seems to think thumping a thesaurus over our heads while standing on a soapbox is enough to support an argument. Chef for President?
What comment was that answering?  I have no doubt you must power through a turn, but the tank isn't going to turn back again towards the original heading when both tracks are powered again.  Or were you counter arguing a different comment?
He was replying to both the OP (wherein Chef states you should "dump the clutch" to turn faster) and wrongway's request for proof of Chef's experience in the subject, which sideways asked for an expert opinion.
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2011, 01:01:29 PM »
The oscillation is simply caused by the vehicle autopilot that holds a constant heading. Do all tanks oscillate or just certain ones?

HiTech



I know the T34/85, the M3, and the Jeep do it.  I'll try the others.

Edit: tried all the others; they all do it. 

It makes driving in town a bit frustrating.
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2011, 01:03:05 PM »
There are some PERFECT sounds for the T34 in the above vids.  If I has any skillz in making sounds for AH I'd attempt.  For now I can only hope one of the better fellas take the -real- sounds in those vids and make them into something we can use.

I was thinking the same thing about these YouTube sounds. They have some of the Tiger which seem to have verified how good a job Mitsu did with the sound files of the Tiger and others. As YouTube continues to mature, being loaded with international sources, we may even be able to emulate the sounds of Polish bicycles & *cavalry rampaging to the front. There was no greater valor. (*but has never been proved to assault German Armor)

One sound file problem is that when I jump in  a Tiger or a Panzer, all other tank guns emulate the Tiger or the Panzer respectively. The beauty of Mitsus files is that you can tell exactly what kind of tank lurks nearby when it cannot be seen. You know this affects & improves your tactics.

The powered pivot we need:
ff to mm's 4:23, 7:40:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRIoFULw4a4&NR=1
Notice at the 7:40 mark the tanker first uses skid steer only, and with the slippery road it almost deceives us to believe it is a true pivot. But then carefully watch as he introduces a reversing track near the end of his cavorting actually effecting the pivot.
 
A case for authentic tree VS tank handling: mm2:44
and another pivot @ mm5:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Kkn9EzcQ0&NR=1

Although "power pivot" may not be the exact engineering term for the maneuver seen in the vids, after driving heavy equipment for over 40 years, having an authentic true reversing track option for steering in addition to the skid steer would be luxurious.

In the previous tank scheme we had a heading-lock feature if you wanted it. While activated, if you tried to veer from that with a steering input it resisted with an elastic snap back quality. It seems we have that feature/option constantly at this time. It fights deviating from the set heading and could only be defeated with multiple steering inputs. It seems that we now cannot turn it off. I don't like that being imposed. I'd like it a toggle-option as before.

In my opinion, the greatest improvement of the last GVB patch is the ability to operate the driver's commands from any of the tank stations. Another set are the anti-vertigo pointers, the gun and heading "crayon" indicators on the turret wheel dial. With these you always know the relationship between turret & hull direction and tank heading. In certain saved head positions though, you cannot see the data or those indicators...maybe they could be repositionable?

I M3'd & dumped troops out at water's edge the other night. I didn't realize there was a strip of marsh isolating a V base preventing passage into it. I saw that one troop didn't disappear and didn't run off anywhere. So I dumped them all out in a grouped pattern rather than the typical single file. I waited a while for the show. They never danced. What's with that? I submit a protest to lift the ban on troop dancing outside the hanger. In fact, I think they should group-up and dance in taunt before filing one by one into any map room. Perhaps the M3 driver could have a key to activate dancing as the hapless enemy observes the celebration from god's eye those last moments of their base occupation into utter defeat.





Here is a most usefull recticle and happens to be an authentic T34 site.
Which means I liked our T-34's previous site better.

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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2011, 01:50:17 PM »
That is the first time I've ever seen that reticule given for a T34.  I've seen a variation of the one we currently have, but something tells me the one you posted did not belong to the T34.
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2011, 05:30:33 PM »
The oscillation is simply caused by the vehicle autopilot that holds a constant heading. Do all tanks oscillate or just certain ones?

HiTech


I know the T34/85, the M3, and the Jeep do it.  I'll try the others.

Edit: tried all the others; they all do it. 

It makes driving in town a bit frustrating.

All of them.



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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2011, 12:46:59 AM »
I got a M4 up to 308mph today at the bishop city and was also able to right it on the shallow slope after I rolled it........but it took 22 minutes to do so.

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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2011, 09:25:35 AM »
I love the game, been here since 99. Thanx for the game..stroke pat hug.

OK enough with the Hugo autotrans in the tanks. We aren't women. At least give us the options of manual or auto shifting.
The tanks do not pivot as they would in reality. In reality you can dump the clutch and get a fast stationary pivot to throw everyone inside to the side walls if you wanted to. the pivot should be violent if we want it to be.OK, if you pivot too much you bottom out just like reality.. something needs to be done about it.


This incorrect statement was what i was replying to, and if you want to pivot in on spot its called neutral steer and the process is that you leave the tranny in neutral and pull the left or right steering lever or steering wheel and one track goes forward and one stays stopped now there are some tanks that one track goes forward while the other goes in reverse. And this process will NOT toss the crew around.
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2011, 09:29:55 AM »
wow don't  know what happened to that last post  :headscratch:
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2011, 12:16:34 PM »
wow don't  know what happened to that last post  :headscratch:

This incorrect statement was what i was replying to, and if you want to pivot in on spot its called neutral steer and the process is that you leave the tranny in neutral and pull the left or right steering lever or steering wheel and one track goes forward and one stays stopped now there are some tanks that one track goes forward while the other goes in reverse. And this process will NOT toss the crew around.

Profound work of the infinitesimal.  :rock
That's the spirit!
Backpedaling to find at least something to refute ...
and its where the use was facetious & hyperbolic.
Now if the correct placement of "quote" brackets is mystifying.....
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2011, 12:37:07 PM »
Profound work of the infinitesimal.  :rock
That's the spirit!
Backpedaling to find at least something to refute ...
and its where the use was facetious & hyperbolic.
Now if the correct placement of "quote" brackets is mystifying.....

Do you have some of Shakespeare's work open on your desk as you type??? Just curious.   :)

I dont miind the oscillation issues as much as I do the lack of differences in how the tanks are able to deal with terrain changes.  The Sherman shouldnt be able to tackle the same steep mound as well as the T34 and Panther.  I'd also like to see areas of swamp added, perhaps it reduces tank speed by %50, etc.  If HTC can do it with the LVT's in water vs land, then why not tanks in swamp/sand vs land?
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2011, 04:46:01 PM »
In game, the Sherman will easily climb slopes the T34 won't.

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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2011, 04:58:23 PM »
In game, the Sherman will easily climb slopes the T34 won't.

Im talking not so much about the speeds in which these tanks travel up a certain grade of slope, but rather how they act when "grabbing" mounds and coming off of steep angles, the T34 *should* be able to do better on those steeper angles.  Ditto for the Panther and LVT4.  Right now, there is no difference.
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Re: dead horse GV complaints
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2011, 08:44:02 PM »
It would help of you gave data (and presented your wishes a little more respectfully).  No one argues that bushes shouldn't flip tanks.  But for other wishes, like the one quoted above, you could present some kind of data.  In this case I found a YouTube video of a T34/85 making a full 180 deg in place turn in about 9 seconds.  The AH version takes 11 seconds; 10 seconds if you let it accelerate straight forward a bit before turning.  The main difference is the AH tank seems to accelerate slower than the real one, especially in first gear from a standstill, but that's hard to quantify from videos.  
Give date??  drive the POS for 5 minutes.