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Offline Karnak

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More Ju88s and Mossies
« on: June 10, 2011, 06:02:14 PM »
The Ju88 and Mossie were two of the most diverse airframes in history.  The following is my opinion on what a nice, comprehensive stable of them would look like.

I will arrange them so that they match up to their equivalents of each other.


Ju88A-4 - Mosquito B.Mk IV - Early bomber versions.
Ju88C-6 - Mosquito F.Mk II - Early fighter versions.
Unknown - Mosquito FB.Mk VI - Low level strike aircraft and fighter versions.
Ju88P-1 - Mosquito FB.MK XVIII - Big gun versions.
Ju88S-1 - Mosquito B.Mk XVI - Late bomber versions.
Ju88G-7 - Mosquito NF.Mk 30 - Late fighter versions

This list would give coverage to the wide variety of tasks these two diverse airframes were modified for.  The Ju88 needs to be updated and it would be nice to see some of these added when it is updated.  The Mosquito Mk II is externally indistinguishable from the Mosquito Mk VI already in AH and the Mk XVIII is only slightly different.  The B.Mk IV and NF.Mk 30 could largely be made up of composite models based on the existing Mk VI and Mk XVI, though additional modifications would be needed such as a larger bomb bay on the Mk VI fuselage, flame dampers on the engines and removal of the cannons, while the Mk 30 would use the wings and engines from the Mk XVI model with the fuselage of the Mk VI model, it would need a new nose to be created.
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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 06:12:31 PM »
A big +1
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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 08:01:05 PM »
F3 view would need to be removed from the JU88 if they do this  :aok

The sheer din of the shreaks of being PWNed by a JU88 would be "mind bottling and would melt your face"  :devil



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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 08:30:21 PM »
+1 for more German bombers.

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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 08:55:30 PM »
+1 for more Ju-88 variants
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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2011, 09:47:47 PM »
Just because one side has a plane doesn't mean the other needs an identical one.

Ju-88S was nothing. It led, however, to the Ju-288 and Ju-388 if I recall. Neither of those appeared in time to see service. The Ju-88S was a pathfinder if I recall, and rather slow until 11000 meters altitude where it had GM1 boost. It had almost no bombload at all, only a single defensive gun.

Not comparable at all. What you're looking for (more representative, later, more powerful model) is the Ju-188.

As for the Ju-88P, it also was nothing. It was a failed attempt to make a good anti-tank platform. From 1941 it was already woefully underpowered and overweight. It only gained more weight as they added more armor (seems it was too slow, and it made it a very large easy target for ground fire).


For the Ju88 series we need a couple more, but NOT because of the RAF's mossie variants. We could use the Ju88A-1 for BOB and early war setups. It had 1 dorsal and 1 ventral MG17 only, less horsepower, less wing area, less climb rate and ceiling as well. It was the more common Ju88 in the BOB.

For the 1942-1943+ we could really use the Ju188 with improved performance and defensive firepower.

Outside of that the Ju88C-6 would be nice but would have limited use with 1 MG/FF and 3 7mm fixed forward guns, no bombsight, and the speed of a Ju88A. Bf110s and later models (190Fs etc) proved to be better ground attack platforms. Nice to play around with, but not really filling any planeset holes.

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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2011, 09:48:35 PM »
Hold the phone there Karnak!  You got another Mossie.  Where's my Beaufighter!?! :)
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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2011, 10:21:06 PM »
+1

More airplanes (or vehicles for that matter) are like Jello. There's always room for more.
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Offline Karnak

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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2011, 10:22:54 PM »
Hold the phone there Karnak!  You got another Mossie.  Where's my Beaufighter!?! :)
I think the Beaufighter should come first, but I would very much like to see the diversity of Ju88 and Mossie roles represented.
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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2011, 10:37:18 PM »
I think the Beaufighter should come first, but I would very much like to see the diversity of Ju88 and Mossie roles represented.

Whew!  Almost had to cancel that check! :)
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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2011, 10:59:16 PM »
F3 view would need to be removed from the JU88 if they do this  :aok

not if you selected the correct variant. or if you opted for formation, rather than 1 lone plane.

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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2011, 12:09:48 AM »
I've been flying EW alot so any addition to the JU88 family sounds good to me!!!!  +1


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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2011, 12:45:14 AM »

  +1 on the 88s
  -1 on the wooden wonders


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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2011, 02:00:38 AM »
  +1 on the 88s
  -1 on the wooden wonders
May I ask why you don't think the Mossies would be good as well?
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Re: More Ju88s and Mossies
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2011, 02:06:25 AM »
+1 for the remodelled 88s and the 188     
also +1 for the mossies
Its much easyer to add sub-types than brand new models.
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