Light Tanks

[iron650]

what if you went for tread-shots? nocked out the tigers tracks, then simply camp nearby to score kills off any supply vehicle that comes to rescue him. eventually he'll rage-tower 

Almost exactly what I said to get the Tiger. Also, the light tanks idea would give some light tanks a point. They shouldn't just be cannon fodder or used for suicide missions because of its armor/gun.

[R 105]

 I would still like to see the Panzer MK.III with the high velocity 50MM gun on it as well as other variants of this tank in the game. Anyone who has spent any time tanking in EW knows it get old fast with just a T-34 against T-34. English tanks would be great too in EW . I see a use for the lighter faster tanks in all arenas.

[slayem]

 Well, with enough light vehicles available, GV availability could be limited by zone or map to make "light fight"
areas as well as heavy. Similar to me163 availability.  

[iron650]

Well, with enough light vehicles available, GV availability could be limited by zone or map to make "light fight"
areas as well as heavy. Similar to me163 availability.  

Also, how well the Vehicle field/airfield is doing. If the vehicle fields hangars are soft the battle might resort to only light tanks on one side (or both.) Or if the battle is in between the fields it is heavy but can allow light tanks. It should be similar to the Me163's availability.

[R 105]

 The Kw.K.39 L/60 5cm (50MM) gun on the Pz.KpfW.III tank that came out in Dec. 1941 was not a bad gun/tank combo. While not so effective against the T-34 turret. It was very effect against the Sherman and Grant along with all the British tanks in North Africa. The Panzer MK.III would be a vast improvement over the M-8 In all arenas and most welcome in EW.

 We may however have to wait for the economy to turn around (after the 2012 election) Then folks well have more disposable income for stuff like AH. I am sure subscriptions are down there too like all business's now. So if we want more tanks & planes here tell a friend that has a job still about AH. Recruit,Recruit,Recruit and then we may well see the Panzer MK.III with the 50mm Kw.K.38 L/60 gun at spawn near you.

[SmokinLoon]

The Kw.K.39 L/60 5cm (50MM) gun on the Pz.KpfW.III tank that came out in Dec. 1941 was not a bad gun/tank combo. While not so effective against the T-34 turret. It was very effect against the Sherman and Grant along with all the British tanks in North Africa. The Panzer MK.III would be a vast improvement over the M-8 In all arenas and most welcome in EW.

 We may however have to wait for the economy to turn around (after the 2012 election) Then folks well have more disposable income for stuff like AH. I am sure subscriptions are down there too like all business's now. So if we want more tanks & planes here tell a friend that has a job still about AH. Recruit,Recruit,Recruit and then we may well see the Panzer MK.III with the 50mm Kw.K.38 L/60 gun at spawn near you.

Very good point regarding the Panzer Mk III.  The AP capabilities of the Kw.K.39 L/60 5cm is no worse than the M4/76mm, but with a wee bit faster reload.  Not to mention the flatter trajectory and FAR better optics.   

[R 105]

Not to mention the lower profile of the Panzer MK.III compared  to the Sherman.

[SmokinLoon]

Not to mention the lower profile of the Panzer MK.III compared  to the Sherman.

That is a +/- in AH.  It cant use hills and mounds as well to hide behind as well as the Sherman but is it smaller and more difficult to hit.

[MK-84]

I would suspect one of the reasons that we do not have "light" tanks is that pretty much any airplane with a cannon could kill it easily.

+1 though, I still want em.

[SmokinLoon]

I would suspect one of the reasons that we do not have "light" tanks is that pretty much any airplane with a cannon could kill it easily.

+1 though, I still want em.

I just checked the armor differences between the Pzr IV and Pzr III:

Pzr III = 12mm on turret top
Pzr IV = 10mm on turret top.

Pzr III = 17mm on hull top.
Pnr IV = 12mm on hull top.

THe Soviet T70 has 10mm on both turret and hull top.

Interesting finds.

[Pigslilspaz]

Would not have expected the III to have more armor there.

[R 105]

 T-34/76 weight is 25.5 tons the Sherman is about 30.5 tons and the Panzer MK.III is about 23.3 tons. So of course the panzer MK.III will have thinner armor. the Sherman and the T-34 has a faster road speed than the Panzer MK.III. However it is smaller and lower in profile and the 50MM gun is pretty good.

 It is a great improvement over an m-8 in armor and fire power if not in speed. But if it has the same color problem the Panzer IV we now have does maybe the MK.III will just be another easy target. The AH Panzer MK.IV looks like the General Lee from the Dukes of Hazzard sitting in the woods lol.

[RTHolmes]

the brit tanks with the 6pdr would be workable in the LW, the APs are comparable to the US 75mm used on the M4 and M3 iirc, the 2pdr otoh ... .

(btw wrongway killed 50 panzers using the 75mm M3 GMC last tour ...  )

[Tyrannis]

Would not have expected the III to have more armor there.

its obvious when you look at the two side by side.


the mkIII looks like a buffed up panzer on steroids.
the mk IV looks like the panzer went anorexic.

[DREDIOCK]

what if you went for tread-shots? nocked out the tigers tracks, then simply camp nearby to score kills off any supply vehicle that comes to rescue him. eventually he'll rage-tower 

I was thinking along the same lines. Make the treads a little more vulnerable to the smaller calibre AP rounds. I know I've had times when I've shot at the tread of a tiger in an M8 up to and including 5-6 and sometimes more from practically point blank range before knocking the tread out. And Im talking hitting the tread from the front or back and not simply the wheel from the side. Now this is opinion only. But I have a hard time believing that tigers treads were that invulnerable to an M8's AP rounds at close range that it could take more then a couple of rounds to cause adverse effects.

So, Maybe make the treads a bit more vulnerable on the heavies. Up the perk cost and let the smaller faster tanks fill the traditional role of say the sherman where it was a numbers advantage to offset the superior tigers and panthers.