Central command

[des506]

Actually what he's looking for is a pool that "those who wish to" can add their names to. That way the "armchair Generals" can open the page to so a list of players available to use as resources in different types of missions. This way the "Generals" can plan their missions/horde better to roll base after base.

Personally I think anything that encourages hordes should be done away with. "I" think that the reason the squads are limited to 32 players is because it creates a workable force. If you have a squad of 32, on a squad night it should be easy to have 20 players show up. 20 players can be a pretty strong and in some cases able force. Having other squads to oppose them would create "rivalries" and before you know it we have small battles happening all over the place. If this is how the players worked it you would have the choice of half a dozen or more fights happening along both fronts.

Unfortunately people find the game and jump right in. Find that it's not as easy as it looks and compensate by teaming up with the largest force around. as ore and more join a horde is generated. If players looked at the game as the "challenge" of taking the base instead of looking at the game as "taking a base", then I think a lot more people would have a lot more fun.

does anyone here have an idea how to control the horde?  pls care to share...besides the irritating  arena cap? split arenas?  feels like you guys can't take the pressure of seeing more then what you have... and losing it thru sheer numbers...i reccoomeded this mission system to control the horde!... and instead of helping me control the horde.. you guys.. take a whole diff stand aginst the pure words... central command.. ok dun like that name.. change it... call it.. mission wizzard...the point is not the name.. or who controls what... and least above all.. isn't abt me or rank..really guys.. grow up...if you are really old.. i think you've reach senility... you keep condemming my idea.. yet none has come up with a better idea to control it.... really if this is about popularity for an idea to get passed... then you guys have failed this forum sadly...

[The Fugitive]

You can NOT control the horde, ya just kinda point it in one direction and let it go. As for stopping the horde, well there really is no way to do that either, that's why they are so successful at rolling over bases.

You can't ask people to sit in the tower, or cap a field on the off chance your going to spot where the horde is going to pop up next. It's a game after all and people are looking to have fun. It is NOT fun sitting in a tower, nor circling a field at 10k waiting for your fuel to run out. That is why defense is so low on the list of things to do. Sure once a group is spotted the defense will get rolling, IF it looks like they have time to up before all the hangers are down.

Creating a pool of players to have "at the ready" even if people would hang around for it...  would only be used for offense which means adding to the horde. It would wouldn't work as defense because a majority of players are below average in skill and would QUICKLY get tired of getting shot down by the horde and so would go look....once again... for those numbers they could hide in.

The forums are for discussing all things about the games. We are discussing your idea, and unfortunately for you so far it looks like most people don't like it or think it would work. The reason is we have seen these ideas in action before and have seen how they turn out. It doesn't end pretty.

The best you can do is post up a mission and if you get a bunch of takers run with it like you did the day you got the idea. If they don't respond then they don't want to play that way on that occasion. Try again later and you might get a different response. 

[des506]

You can NOT control the horde, ya just kinda point it in one direction and let it go. As for stopping the horde, well there really is no way to do that either, that's why they are so successful at rolling over bases.

You can't ask people to sit in the tower, or cap a field on the off chance your going to spot where the horde is going to pop up next. It's a game after all and people are looking to have fun. It is NOT fun sitting in a tower, nor circling a field at 10k waiting for your fuel to run out. That is why defense is so low on the list of things to do. Sure once a group is spotted the defense will get rolling, IF it looks like they have time to up before all the hangers are down.

Creating a pool of players to have "at the ready" even if people would hang around for it...  would only be used for offense which means adding to the horde. It would wouldn't work as defense because a majority of players are below average in skill and would QUICKLY get tired of getting shot down by the horde and so would go look....once again... for those numbers they could hide in.

The forums are for discussing all things about the games. We are discussing your idea, and unfortunately for you so far it looks like most people don't like it or think it would work. The reason is we have seen these ideas in action before and have seen how they turn out. It doesn't end pretty.

The best you can do is post up a mission and if you get a bunch of takers run with it like you did the day you got the idea. If they don't respond then they don't want to play that way on that occasion. Try again later and you might get a different response. 

i beg to differ... we controlled the bish horde that day... the min the hrode entered dar ring... the call came...  whoever that jsut landed or got killed... immiediately went on the defence... all on 1 channel... 1 big bellybutton squad sepearted into diff fronts...and each having defence and offence at the same time... lose 1 no prob.. we get it back after reorganising... you've seen it work and failed because there wasn't a system in the game to support that function...all we had were a bunch of dedicated guys wit a common goal who failed because the sytem wasn't there to support them... have you ever thought it thru? you come in horde... every time this country has hordes to defend it... you stop come back again,, same thing.. you think hell... this is turning into 1 big furball..  so you stop* dun forget.. you have to fly wayyyy further than the defenders..... you THINK.. hey lets do sneaky missions.. steal bases... and how to take them objectively too..does it not stop hordes? whats hasppening rite now.. is you see a horde...you think.... hell i'm not getting vulched.... not going to up... so the horde has it way... i salute the new guys cos they dun know much... they up trying to defend thinking help is on the way... FYI your kind of thinking killed them... not the horde.. now turn it back.... you already have 2-3 new guys defending... and ready pool.. you send whoever wants to help them...horde may not be diverted... but hell.. their easy base capture is gone...

[Assi29]

[des506]

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gathering of the fools

[The Fugitive]

OK, this is the last one I'm going to reply to or read for that matter unless you start using full sentences, paragraphs, and proper spelling. Reading your post, and understanding them is giving me a headache. The reason they teach you this crap in school is because MOST people use it in everyday life to communicate with others.

i beg to differ... we controlled the bish horde that day... the min the hrode entered dar ring... the call came...  whoever that jsut landed or got killed... immiediately went on the defence... all on 1 channel... 1 big bellybutton squad sepearted into diff fronts...and each having defence and offence at the same time... lose 1 no prob.. we get it back after reorganising...

This happens sometimes as a large percentage of players that day "get into it" I myself have joined in and helped the war effort by defending or helping take bases. For the most part, I'd rather just find little fights and furball and couldn't care less about the "war".

you've seen it work and failed because there wasn't a system in the game to support that function...all we had were a bunch of dedicated guys wit a common goal who failed because the sytem wasn't there to support them... have you ever thought it thru? you come in horde... every time this country has hordes to defend it... you stop come back again,, same thing.. you think hell... this is turning into 1 big furball..  so you stop* dun forget.. you have to fly wayyyy further than the defenders..... you THINK.. hey lets do sneaky missions.. steal bases... and how to take them objectively too..does it not stop hordes?

No nothing stops a horde. A horde is 40-50 guys rolling over a base like a plague of locust. Some will up to defend but after killing a half dozen lemmings the FHs are down and MOST people look for a new fight (why fly all that way to get to a fight that is soon to disappear). The horde captures another base and moves on. Very rarely do hordes run into each other. Mayhem ensues, all fighters are as heavy as possible, and nobody has any alt, just speed which is soon either burned off in that first turn, or those that survive the HOs on the first pass continue on the their intended target both teams hoping to capture the target BEFORE he team they just passed does.

  whats hasppening rite now.. is you see a horde...you think.... hell i'm not getting vulched.... not going to up... so the horde has it way... i salute the new guys cos they dun know much... they up trying to defend thinking help is on the way... FYI your kind of thinking killed them... not the horde.. now turn it back.... you already have 2-3 new guys defending... and ready pool.. you send whoever wants to help them...horde may not be diverted... but hell.. their easy base capture is gone...

Many people, myself included couldn't care less about score. Upping from a field under attack is foolish, but we do it anyway to defend, and in my case grab a few easy kills  I have seen this type of organization many times. ROC did it for the Rooks for awhile, the BOPS did it for the Bish, and the vTards are doing it for the bish now. Large groups, well organized used to swarm a base under with numbers for the sole purpose to capture the base. Personally I think there is much more to this game. Grabbing a base is easy. I prefer to look for a challenge. I fly into multi-con environments, it's more fun to fly against 3 than it is to pick someone who isn't paying attention tho I won't pass up those kills either  The only reason a horde is fun...that I can see... is the sense of accomplishment a player can get being part of the horde that he can NOT get on his own.....yet.

Again, your idea will only work on those days the planets align and the majority want to work together. Use the mission planner. When the mission launches you see what you have for resources. That is when you plan on "what" the missions all about and hand out the assignments then. If only a few sign up, your a "porking mission" to kill dar someplace. If a bunch join, your a "base grab" mission. You don't need a special system/set-up to do what your looking to do.

[des506]

OK, this is the last one I'm going to reply to or read for that matter unless you start using full sentences, paragraphs, and proper spelling. Reading your post, and understanding them is giving me a headache. The reason they teach you this crap in school is because MOST people use it in everyday life to communicate with others.

This happens sometimes as a large percentage of players that day "get into it" I myself have joined in and helped the war effort by defending or helping take bases. For the most part, I'd rather just find little fights and furball and couldn't care less about the "war".

No nothing stops a horde. A horde is 40-50 guys rolling over a base like a plague of locust. Some will up to defend but after killing a half dozen lemmings the FHs are down and MOST people look for a new fight (why fly all that way to get to a fight that is soon to disappear). The horde captures another base and moves on. Very rarely do hordes run into each other. Mayhem ensues, all fighters are as heavy as possible, and nobody has any alt, just speed which is soon either burned off in that first turn, or those that survive the HOs on the first pass continue on the their intended target both teams hoping to capture the target BEFORE he team they just passed does.


Many people, myself included couldn't care less about score. Upping from a field under attack is foolish, but we do it anyway to defend, and in my case grab a few easy kills  I have seen this type of organization many times. ROC did it for the Rooks for awhile, the BOPS did it for the Bish, and the vTards are doing it for the bish now. Large groups, well organized used to swarm a base under with numbers for the sole purpose to capture the base. Personally I think there is much more to this game. Grabbing a base is easy. I prefer to look for a challenge. I fly into multi-con environments, it's more fun to fly against 3 than it is to pick someone who isn't paying attention tho I won't pass up those kills either  The only reason a horde is fun...that I can see... is the sense of accomplishment a player can get being part of the horde that he can NOT get on his own.....yet.

Again, your idea will only work on those days the planets align and the majority want to work together. Use the mission planner. When the mission launches you see what you have for resources. That is when you plan on "what" the missions all about and hand out the assignments then. If only a few sign up, your a "porking mission" to kill dar someplace. If a bunch join, your a "base grab" mission. You don't need a special system/set-up to do what your looking to do.

well you are speaking only for yourself.. do you represent the rest? how do you decide on 1 thing when the majority f the people haven't even heard it? you say you can't control the horde? we did... we upped in hordes too... it worked.. why it didn't for you... i shan't comment on that... you are that sort of person who lets everyone do all the work for you... you're just plain happy playing the same map till its time for change... well they have failed like i said cos the system didn't supoort them... we need to fully utilise the mission planner somehow...all i am hearing from you pessimist guys is that hey.. someone did that and failed.. lets not venture into that area again... dear sir... if you were part of the NASA operations.. man will certainly would not have gone to the moon... pls reject this idea on the attributes rather than fact that someone has done it and failed (note. they failed cos they arranged a time for 30 rooks to take bases.. at a time when no enmy is ard... eny killed them) also why must we only wait for the certain few mission planners? everyone should be able to up missions at anytime with ease even with dwindling numbers...... most of you represent a small part of the community... the rest i believe are interested in taking bases and winning the war... or getting bish and knits off our land.. besides the perks along the way...have any of you seen any points from the other side of fence, or are you so very sure it wouldn't work? this idea is to make lull hours more interesting.. as well as controlling the horde in peak hours...i believe i already know what the next comment will be like..

[RTHolmes]

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just FYI thats how it reads with no paragraphs ...

[The Fugitive]

just FYI thats how it reads with no paragraphs ...

I'll bet that isn't what he thought the next comment would be like! 


OK Des, I know that you won't listen to anything I write, nor understand it but here goes anyway.

I have been playing this game for over 10 YEARS. What I am telling you when I say it won't work is because I have seen it before. How many times do you watch a rocket explode on the pad BEFORE you change your idea?

You can run a mission any time YOU want. If people don't want to join THEN THEY DON'T WANT TO JOIN there is nothing you can do about it. If they do join, then have at it. Did you not read the post where I said we took 11 bases in a few hours? I lead that attack with my squad. At one time I had over 25 missions saved in the mission planner. Don't presume to "know what kind of player" I am.

You asked for thoughts on your idea and you got them. It's too bad they are NOT the answers you were looking for, but they are the truth as far as they go. Good luck building your "pool" you are well on your way what with the hole you've been digging.

[Meatwad]

If you want people to take you seriously, drop the text speak. Only people that use it are little kids and people that are too lazy to type out complete words.

[gyrene81]

well you are speaking only for yourself.. do you represent the rest? how do you decide on 1 thing when the majority f the people haven't even heard it? you say you can't control the horde? we did... we upped in hordes too... it worked.. why it didn't for you... i shan't comment on that... you are that sort of person who lets everyone do all the work for you... you're just plain happy playing the same map till its time for change... well they have failed like i said cos the system didn't supoort them... we need to fully utilise the mission planner somehow...all i am hearing from you pessimist guys is that hey.. someone did that and failed.. lets not venture into that area again... dear sir... if you were part of the NASA operations.. man will certainly would not have gone to the moon... pls reject this idea on the attributes rather than fact that someone has done it and failed (note. they failed cos they arranged a time for 30 rooks to take bases.. at a time when no enmy is ard... eny killed them) also why must we only wait for the certain few mission planners? everyone should be able to up missions at anytime with ease even with dwindling numbers...... most of you represent a small part of the community... the rest i believe are interested in taking bases and winning the war... or getting bish and knits off our land.. besides the perks along the way...have any of you seen any points from the other side of fence, or are you so very sure it wouldn't work? this idea is to make lull hours more interesting.. as well as controlling the horde in peak hours...i believe i already know what the next comment will be like..

you really don't get it do you? even after people who bothered to take the time and give your little idea more than the cursory dismissal it deserved, which you should have seen by now is all it was truly worth, you still insist on believing you have the answer.

the mission planner can be utilized by anyone at any time. not everyone can be successful planning and executing a mission, and the players who have been around a while know that. if you had been paying attention during your short time in the main arenas you would have noticed there are certain people who can plan missions and get a good following, and there are people who cannot. it has to do with the persons experience and how successful they have been in the past. timing has a lot to do with it as well, there are days and or times when few or even no players want to join missions, they just want to do their own thing. there is also the little point fugitive has repeatedly pointed out and you keep ignoring, people want to get into the action as quicly as possible and they will go where the numbers are. other than aircraft/vehicle selections, that is the primary reason for the consistent late war arena population, and the reason hordes form. during the summer months when there is no school, you will find more people wanting to take bases and win the war than you will in the fall/winter. judging only by your op and content of your subsequent responses, you either cannot or do not want to attempt to accept anything except your idea being that of pure genius. everything you're wanting is already in place, just not the way you picture it.

take heed what fugitive and others have said, they have been at it a lot longer than you have.

[Assi29]

I'm starting to think this is just an attempt to get picked up by a certain vBish squad.

[R 105]

 Sorry but I am not wrong. War ain't base ball and he who get there first with the most wins. That is why all Armies in the history of the world mass troops at a single point to overwhelm the enemy. (D-Day comes to mind) You may not like it but this is how war works and there is and end to it.

[kvuo75]

Sorry but I am not wrong. War ain't base ball and he who get there first with the most wins. That is why all Armies in the history of the world mass troops at a single point to overwhelm the enemy. (D-Day comes to mind) You may not like it but this is how war works and there is and end to it.

whats that got to do with the game called aces high?

[The Fugitive]

Sorry but I am not wrong. War ain't base ball and he who get there first with the most wins. That is why all Armies in the history of the world mass troops at a single point to overwhelm the enemy. (D-Day comes to mind) You may not like it but this is how war works and there is and end to it.

Of course your wrong, and as soon as we go to war you let me know. The rest of us are playing a game that is meant to be fun. Being hammered by an over whelming force is NOT fun any way you look at it. That's why games have rules, that's why maps for the MA are almost always even sided almost mirroring each side. Football is about who can score the most points in a certain amount of time. I'd bet it would be easy to win ALL the time if my team had 50 players and the other only had 11.