Mustang on the Endangered List (Cap)

[Shuffler]

Read this......
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110616/RETAIL01/306169874/1492

Would be a shame for a plant to close though.

I found it funny that the number one car traded in to get a Camaro is a Mustang. hehe

[Tigger29]

As a Ford guy I've always liked the Mustangs.  OK I take that back.. I never was a big fan of the Fox body (80's) but oh well.  When they redesigned it in '94 I thought it looked cool but I quickly leaned that everything was just... cheap.  The new '05 design was a HUGE leap in the right direction.  A lot of the quality returned, it looked neat, and it went from feeling like a "cheap" ride to feeling like a "luxurious, quality" ride.  Everything felt heavier and more solid, and the entire car was more stable as a result.

The problem is that they haven't really made any big changes since then.  It's been seven years now and while GM and Chrysler have released their competition by 'bringing back' lost models (Camaro and Challenger), Ford really has nothing to offer someone looking for something new and different as far as sports cars go.  In order to stand out, Ford has to continue to change and evolve the Mustang *BUT* to be fair that costs money.  Since Ford declined financial assistance I'd imagine that their R&D funds were quite a bit lower... while GM and Chrysler were sinking millions into their sports cars to try to make a quick buck, Ford was busy restructuring their ways of doing business for long term success.

At least that's my theory.

Personally I'm not worried.  Even if they end up eliminating the Mustang model altogether like Chevy did the Camaro - in a few years they'll come out with a whole new car that will just BLOW AWAY the competition.  Maybe by then I'll be in a financial position to actually OWN ONE! haha

[Shuffler]

As a Ford guy I've always liked the Mustangs.  OK I take that back.. I never was a big fan of the Fox body (80's) but oh well.  When they redesigned it in '94 I thought it looked cool but I quickly leaned that everything was just... cheap.  The new '05 design was a HUGE leap in the right direction.  A lot of the quality returned, it looked neat, and it went from feeling like a "cheap" ride to feeling like a "luxurious, quality" ride.  Everything felt heavier and more solid, and the entire car was more stable as a result.

The problem is that they haven't really made any big changes since then.  It's been seven years now and while GM and Chrysler have released their competition by 'bringing back' lost models (Camaro and Challenger), Ford really has nothing to offer someone looking for something new and different as far as sports cars go.  In order to stand out, Ford has to continue to change and evolve the Mustang *BUT* to be fair that costs money.  Since Ford declined financial assistance I'd imagine that their R&D funds were quite a bit lower... while GM and Chrysler were sinking millions into their sports cars to try to make a quick buck, Ford was busy restructuring their ways of doing business for long term success.

At least that's my theory.

Personally I'm not worried.  Even if they end up eliminating the Mustang model altogether like Chevy did the Camaro - in a few years they'll come out with a whole new car that will just BLOW AWAY the competition.  Maybe by then I'll be in a financial position to actually OWN ONE! haha

Ahh but Ford did accept money.

This year mustang upped the ante with more horsepower as the V6 camaro was almost an equal of the mustang GT with a V8. that was a plus but they then changed the rear end of the car to... well I have no idea what they were thinking. Camaro keeps them coming with the new 40 year annivesary edition and early next year the ZL1. Following later will be the Z28.

I'd hate to see the mustang go the way the camaro did for awhile. I'm truely hoping they find some success to keep them coming too.

My main reason for posting was to nag Cap a bit. Always fun needling eachother between car makes.

[Babalonian]

CAP must be having a good/bad Friday, even I beat him to O'club forum today.

[Shuffler]

CAP must be having a good/bad Friday, even I beat him to O'club forum today.

Hopefully he's busy at his shop and makin' money.

[BoilerDown]

Ahh but Ford did accept money.

Its not the same thing as a bailout.  Its bad to misrepresent things.

http://jalopnik.com/5704575/ford-bmw-toyota-took-secret-government-money

[Shuffler]

Its not the same thing as a bailout.  Its bad to misrepresent things.

http://jalopnik.com/5704575/ford-bmw-toyota-took-secret-government-money

You can justify it as you want, put any name on it you want, ... in the end it is the same thing as the other companies did.

Now back to the mustang on the endangered list.

[Tyrannis]

let it die  horrible representation of American Muscle.


chargers always 

[Flipperk]

let it die  horrible representation of American Muscle.


chargers always 

Ill see your charger and raise you a Corvette ZR1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlvQLQTtOmk

[TwinBoom]

Fix Or Repair Daily

[68ZooM]

well if i'm going to spend that kind of money, i'll go with the old school years  67-69 Camaro, 67-69 Mustang, 67-69 Chargers, you can keep the plastic cars.

[Masherbrum]

If it is in print, it must be true.

[Flipperk]

As a Ford guy I've always liked the Mustangs.  OK I take that back.. I never was a big fan of the Fox body (80's) but oh well.  When they redesigned it in '94 I thought it looked cool but I quickly leaned that everything was just... cheap.  The new '05 design was a HUGE leap in the right direction.  A lot of the quality returned, it looked neat, and it went from feeling like a "cheap" ride to feeling like a "luxurious, quality" ride.  Everything felt heavier and more solid, and the entire car was more stable as a result.

The problem is that they haven't really made any big changes since then.  It's been seven years now and while GM and Chrysler have released their competition by 'bringing back' lost models (Camaro and Challenger), Ford really has nothing to offer someone looking for something new and different as far as sports cars go.  In order to stand out, Ford has to continue to change and evolve the Mustang *BUT* to be fair that costs money.  Since Ford declined financial assistance I'd imagine that their R&D funds were quite a bit lower... while GM and Chrysler were sinking millions into their sports cars to try to make a quick buck, Ford was busy restructuring their ways of doing business for long term success.

At least that's my theory.

Personally I'm not worried.  Even if they end up eliminating the Mustang model altogether like Chevy did the Camaro - in a few years they'll come out with a whole new car that will just BLOW AWAY the competition.  Maybe by then I'll be in a financial position to actually OWN ONE! haha

Have you not taken business classes? The more money you make now the more you can invest and multiply with your assets. You must have long and SHORT term goals and success...GM and Chrysler are doing both at the same time, making more money now to invest in a better future.

As far as the Mustang goes, the Mustang has always and always will be a car made to be improved upon. A stock mustang is complete garbage, talks the talk but can not even crawl. The mustang line has always been about upgrading and improving out of the consumers pocket not the company's. If you want a decent mustang you have to buy the upgrades.

A Charger, Corvette, or even the Camaro come with a great package as STOCK. Even the bottom of the line models of these can use the mustang as used toilet paper.

[Flipperk]

well if i'm going to spend that kind of money, i'll go with the old school years  67-69 Camaro, 67-69 Mustang, 67-69 Chargers, you can keep the plastic cars.

1965 Shelby Cobra...nuff said.

[Masherbrum]

Have you not taken business classes? The more money you make now the more you can invest and multiply with your assets. You must have long and SHORT term goals and success...GM and Chrysler are doing both at the same time, making more money now to invest in a better future.

As far as the Mustang goes, the Mustang has always and always will be a car made to be improved upon. A stock mustang is complete garbage, talks the talk but can not even crawl. The mustang line has always been about upgrading and improving out of the consumers pocket not the company's. If you want a decent mustang you have to buy the upgrades.

A Charger, Corvette, or even the Camaro come with a great package as STOCK. Even the bottom of the line models of these can use the mustang as used toilet paper.

There is so much caca del toro in this quote, that I do not even know where to begin.