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Offline MachFly

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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2011, 06:43:30 PM »
I was not referring to G-Forces.  I was referring to your plane hitting the ground or being otherwise damaged.  However, thank you for the interesting information about G-Forces, I never knew that.  However, it's not the body that causes the shake, it's the head being jarred by impacts from rounds or terrain.

Ah got it. Thankfully I don't really know how that would feel or look so I can not comment.

I seen reports of some cases when the pilot's seat would get ripped off and squash the pilot between the seat and the controls. Also I seen an airplane wreckage where the engine was on the pilot's seat (I assume you can understand what happened there). However this is would vary between the type of crash and the airplane.
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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2011, 06:55:24 PM »
The pilot is strapped to the plane and the body should not move. As the plane mostly pulls Gs up and down (not side to side like a car) the forces on the neck are up and down, when pulling Gs I don't remember ever having my neck squashed or extended.

I've read of a conditon called "Hornet neck".  The F-18, like most modern airplanes, can pile the G on pretty quick, guys would be looking over a shoulder and pull hard straining the neck.

As an indication of how you do move under G here is a video taken while flying Crazy Horse.  When Lee takes the airplane and pulls vertical notice how on the inside camera view we both come "up" when he relaxes the pull.  That pull was about 6G.  I didn't notice any of that until later when watching the video.

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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2011, 07:01:12 PM »
Modelled perfectly - I have nerves of steel, so why shouldn't my cartoon pilot?



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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2011, 01:57:33 PM »
I've read of a conditon called "Hornet neck".  The F-18, like most modern airplanes, can pile the G on pretty quick, guys would be looking over a shoulder and pull hard straining the neck.

As an indication of how you do move under G here is a video taken while flying Crazy Horse.  When Lee takes the airplane and pulls vertical notice how on the inside camera view we both come "up" when he relaxes the pull.  That pull was about 6G.  I didn't notice any of that until later when watching the video.

 

They came up because their lap belts were not tight, not because their neck got stretched (as requested in the OP). When I do aerobatics I prefer to tighten my belts so the body would not float at all under negative Gs.  
So floating body is just a preference, I don't think we can model that in AH.
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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2011, 02:10:39 PM »
They came up because their lap belts were not tight, not because their neck got stretched (as requested in the OP). When I do aerobatics I prefer to tighten my belts so the body would not float at all under negative Gs.  
So floating body is just a preference, I don't think we can model that in AH.

If you're commenting on colmbo's video replace "thier neck" with "your neck".

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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2011, 01:19:55 AM »
They came up because their lap belts were not tight,

My lap belt was quite snug.  The 6g pull pushed us down into the seat cushion, what you see is us coming back up to normal.
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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2011, 09:58:20 AM »
My lap belt was quite snug.  The 6g pull pushed us down into the seat cushion, what you see is us coming back up to normal.

Hmm...I guess if you look at it from the side you would see that, but I never noticed that effect myself.
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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2011, 10:12:13 AM »
I want to hear and feel my pilot fill his drawers when he gets in a situation where his death is inevitable.  I want virtual realism dammit!
You would get tired of that sound every flight buddy.  In your case I suggest a round of applause and a fireworks display when you actually land an intact bird.  :neener:
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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2011, 11:03:04 AM »
You would get tired of that sound every flight buddy.  In your case I suggest a round of applause and a fireworks display when you actually land an intact bird.  :neener:

All that work and coding, for something that would never be seen?




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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2011, 11:39:45 AM »
I think there is a new SAPP hack out there. I have seen Corky land at least 5 sorties in the last two weeks.  I didn't count that many in the last six months..... :noid :noid :noid :noid
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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2011, 11:44:56 AM »
At least 5? As in you couldn't keep counting on your other hand's fingers because you had to keep that hand operating the margarita blender built into a P-38? 

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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2011, 11:51:20 AM »
yes. The curse has it's grip on me.  Although my 38 has a handcrank blender.  I have not been allowed an electric one yet. :noid
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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2011, 07:43:23 PM »
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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2011, 10:24:50 PM »
Having been shot at and missed I can only say that my vision did not blur. Instead things became crystal clear with minute detail noted.
 

First firefight in Afghanistan went like this:

1. <As RPGs explode around truck> "Is this really happening?"
2. Senses become fine tuned, training creeps back in, you begin to operate like a machine
3. Legs began shaking uncontrollably...first thought is fear...then you realise that it is Adrenaline
4. Begin shooting those bad guys like there is no tomorrow!

Only time my vision became blurry was right after RPG exploded like 20 meters away sending me hurtling through the air and into the side of my Humvee...then was like holy watermelon that was cool...lol.


Sounds like something you would get with a PW on Xbox 360 or somethin
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Re: Pilot Reactions
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2011, 12:32:52 AM »
i like this one.

having flown high-performance gliders i can tell you that your head bobs and jigs alot.even just cranking over into a thermal your head will move a noticable amount.especialy in loops,barrel rolls,snap stalls and hitting turbulance.

how they would model it,i dunno.my guess is when maybe u do a stall and u snap to the side u hit your head on the canopy and hear a thump sound or somthing..
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