Author Topic: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.  (Read 4490 times)

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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2011, 03:16:20 PM »
how is puffy ack gonna stop somebody from milking a town at 20k?  I have flown over the strats made 3 passes at 12-15k and came out undamaged.  I routinely sink cv's from 5.5 alt and come out with very little damage if any.  so not sure how 1 to 3 puffy ack over town is going to stop somebody from doing milk runs.  other than being great for films, it wont bother anybody.  that's just my opinion.


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I have seen others & been hit my self & lost aircraft in the same process & it really makes a difference as to what you fly. Big slow old buffs not much trouble,Mosquito XVI not so good AR-234 they always get tore up. Luck of the draw on that one. As I said a wish to at least make it a little harder for town milkers. Especially if they are hitting dozens on a single sortie.


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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2011, 03:22:41 PM »
No, towns need to be left right as they are, HQ and Strat needs to be worth far more than they are now, and we need new targets to hit.

I agree and that is my desire based on the matter of the OPs wish, I'm glad towns are a profitable venture as is for bomber pilots, I just wish CVs, strats and the HQ were also up there on the list if not higher.

Taking current towns as the baseline: Four bomber pilots, four seperate bombing missions, all should in the end be worth (IMO) ballpark about the same value in return for their efforts ~ 6 town centers/3 CVs/2 Strats/1 HQ.
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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2011, 08:44:33 PM »
I have seen others & been hit my self & lost aircraft in the same process & it really makes a difference as to what you fly. Big slow old buffs not much trouble,Mosquito XVI not so good AR-234 they always get tore up. Luck of the draw on that one. As I said a wish to at least make it a little harder for town milkers. Especially if they are hitting dozens on a single sortie.



the mosquitos ar 234's can only hit 1 or 2 towns and these are the one who will get shot down according to you.  but it still does nothing to stop the bigger bombers from dropping 1 or 2 bombs over many towns.  like I said I fly b26's at 5.5 over cv and will sink it and whatever little damage I get is from regular aa not puffy ack.  over the city, i have flown many times doing 2 or 3 runs the full length of it and will come out with little damage. they can add puffy ack over the town and the only thing it will do is annoy the crap out somebody with very little damage.

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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2011, 08:54:25 PM »
As I understand it, currently any wind only affects your plane's flight. Once bombs are dropped, they are unaffected by any wind in the arena.
Trust me, bombs are affected by wind.
Well, yes and no. From my experience, once you drop your bombs, they're not affected by any changes in the wind as they fall -- so if you have a 20kt wind at 150° from 15,000' up, and you drop from 20,000', the bombs will fall as if they were experiencing that wind all the way to the ground. However, the line of fall -- what vector the bombs take when they drop -- is a function of your airspeed and heading plus any wind at your drop alt. So you're right, Beefcake, in that the wind controls how the bombs will fall, but ImADot's right in that, once they're dropped, their fall doesn't depend on the wind any more.

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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2011, 12:00:09 AM »
the mosquitos ar 234's can only hit 1 or 2 towns. semp

Really?



Must be some Uber town I am not aware of then?

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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2011, 12:52:15 AM »
Really?

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Must be some Uber town I am not aware of then?

Someone did a ALOT of rearms.
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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2011, 12:53:51 AM »
 
Someone did a ALOT of rearms.
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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2011, 08:27:15 AM »
  :aok With little fear of being touched.

That's a pretty big assumption. Granted the Mossie does it's best up high it shouldn't be assumed that he flew above 20k the whole time.
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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2011, 11:15:43 AM »

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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2011, 01:04:58 PM »
That's a pretty big assumption. Granted the Mossie does it's best up high it shouldn't be assumed that he flew above 20k the whole time.
A big assumption :headscratch: no I would say a fair one :aok

I think it was stated that those sorties where well over 24 hours long each.

At some point if some one could see an icon of a mosquito down low wiping out a large portion in town with a single bomb.
I think some one would up & proceed to hunt the intruder down knowing it was unarmed.

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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2011, 02:20:46 PM »
I hit six towns on one flight with the six 500lb loadout on the Mossie for something like 22,000 damage.  I hit eight towns with Ki-67s, 100kg bomb on each, and landed almost 25,000 damage.  Ar234 is limited to three towns simply due to bomb options.
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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #56 on: July 09, 2011, 02:34:56 PM »
I hit six towns on one flight with the six 500lb loadout on the Mossie for something like 22,000 damage.  I hit eight towns with Ki-67s, 100kg bomb on each, and landed almost 25,000 damage.  Ar234 is limited to three towns simply due to bomb options.
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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #57 on: July 09, 2011, 04:34:50 PM »
Single aircraft NO formations selected. :aok Rearm as many times you like.
Well, I used formations on that Mossie sortie.  It is the only time I have ever used a formation with the Mossie.

With Ki-67s, or any other bomber that relies on guns for defense, I always take a formation.
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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #58 on: July 09, 2011, 06:17:29 PM »
I've been tanking the strats every day and I am finding that destroyed objects come back up amazingly fast even when you destroy all the trains that are supposed to supply the strats.

I also saw two trains within 1 minute and it seems you cannot stop the train from making it's delivery no matter how many times you blow it up.

Something is broken.

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Re: Lets try to end Salvo 1 on towns.
« Reply #59 on: July 10, 2011, 04:17:09 PM »
I've been tanking the strats every day and I am finding that destroyed objects come back up amazingly fast even when you destroy all the trains that are supposed to supply the strats.

I also saw two trains within 1 minute and it seems you cannot stop the train from making it's delivery no matter how many times you blow it up.

Something is broken.

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