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Offline Slash27

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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2011, 07:40:23 PM »
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There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2011, 07:44:03 PM »
I can't believe we have all lost Big Beautiful Doll...  :cry

As soon as I saw the hit, my heart was in my mouth, such a relief to see that parachute.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2011, 07:47:06 PM »
Quote from: Blagard on July 11, 2011, 07:14:45 PM
Youtube already has another angle on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_A4xdGFXoE

This video sent chills down my spine.
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Quote from: 100hooch on July 27, 2014, 02:44:19 AM
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2011, 07:54:45 PM »
Warbirds have no luck flying in the UK!  Off the top of my head this 51, a 38, and a p63 -(biggins hill) have been lost in the last few years.   :frown:
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2011, 07:57:50 PM »
The crowd was going crazy where I was at, late that day I saw done remains being takin out
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2011, 08:06:53 PM »
http://www.flyingfilm.co.uk/archives/58

be interesting to hear what the p51 pilot experienced tryng to regain control.
the video link in this post shows up close a very hard hit with a wing right in the underside of the fuselage and a bit of the right hstab possibly but the p51 was intact.

did the pilot quickly decide to bail after the impact from a plane that survived the hit based on loss of control or just from the trauma of being thrown sideways in a midair collision? were the controls jammed or functioning?

it got hit in the strongest point of the rear airframe... the tailwheel.

its the only reason the control surfaces are still on. lower fuselage tailwheel area took the brunt.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2011, 08:25:01 PM »
Yeah, the P51 looked very much intact and the pilot seems to have bailed by pure instincts and training after the major jolt he recieved. Such a lame way to loose a warbird like this  :cry. The pilots are fine at least.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2011, 08:29:20 PM »
I hate to armchair it but I wondered the same. I can't imagine what went through their head while keeping thier cool.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2011, 09:36:03 PM »
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2011, 09:38:34 PM »
Please, let the investigation run its course. There will be a report for all to read after that.
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2011, 10:08:13 PM »
Quote from: Citabria on July 11, 2011, 08:06:53 PM
http://www.flyingfilm.co.uk/archives/58

be interesting to hear what the p51 pilot experienced tryng to regain control.
the video link in this post shows up close a very hard hit with a wing right in the underside of the fuselage and a bit of the right hstab possibly but the p51 was intact.

did the pilot quickly decide to bail after the impact from a plane that survived the hit based on loss of control or just from the trauma of being thrown sideways in a midair collision? were the controls jammed or functioning?

it got hit in the strongest point of the rear airframe... the tailwheel.

its the only reason the control surfaces are still on. lower fuselage tailwheel area took the brunt.

Probably severed control cables





original images from here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013219/Pilot-Rob-Davies-escapes-WW2-fighter-mid-air-collision-airshow.html
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2011, 10:17:53 PM »
I'm curious why the p51 greatly decreased his rate of turn to near nothing while every single one of the other planes who peeled up and to the left in the multiple passes shown kept up the turn rate for the entire 180.

It's almost as if he blacked out because he sure stopped turning.

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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2011, 10:19:50 PM »
Quote from: icepac on July 11, 2011, 10:17:53 PM
I'm curious why the p51 greatly decreased his rate of turn to near nothing while every single one of the other planes who peel up and left in the multiple passes shown kept up the turn rate for the entire 180.

It's almost as if he blacked out because he sure stopped turning.


Maybe loss of control surfaces, severved hydraulic lines maybe I don't know
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Re: Real P51 goes down in collision at Duxford
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2011, 10:20:25 PM »
He stopped turning before the collision so there was either something wrong with the plane or the pilot before the collision.
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