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Offline RTHolmes

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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2011, 01:50:12 AM »
good point :) although I think the tsetse would be much less effective than the iL2 in AH for tank-worrying.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2011, 02:04:49 AM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on July 20, 2011, 01:50:12 AM
good point :) although I think the tsetse would be much less effective than the iL2 in AH for tank-worrying.
Dunno.  The armor penetration on the Mollins 57mm is a bloody lot higher.  It would punch through the top armor of most tanks with ease, even striking at a shallow angle.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2011, 06:23:19 AM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on July 19, 2011, 07:59:36 PM
the QF 6pdr could be used on a bunch of british chassis, and the M3, and the Tsetse. the armour penetration would make it useful in even LW. probably the best bang-for-coading-buck gun we havent got yet :aok

Shut up, last thing we need is more aerial crap to kill us tankers  :noid.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2011, 06:53:35 AM »
if you're willing to concede to the wirble being perked, I'll consider it ;)
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2011, 07:12:50 AM »
Get better at avoiding flack fire. I killed 3 flackers in an Il-2 three days ago. I swooped in and killed them in the middle of 4 wirbs, 2 osties, and an M16.

Flackers are EASILY avoided unless they have uncommon skill level. I vulched two planes today (yeah, I know, I was bored) on a flack covered runway today and made it back to base without so much as a ping.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2011, 07:13:32 AM »
What!!! The 75mm gun was not a bored out 57mm/6lber.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2011, 07:43:17 AM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 20, 2011, 07:12:50 AM
Get better at avoiding flack fire. I killed 3 flackers in an Il-2 three days ago. I swooped in and killed them in the middle of 4 wirbs, 2 osties, and an M16.

Flackers are EASILY avoided unless they have uncommon skill level. I vulched two planes today (yeah, I know, I was bored) on a flack covered runway today and made it back to base without so much as a ping.

fair enough, I'll keep pushing for the Tsetse then. and dont tell me to shut up. :rolleyes:
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2011, 07:57:37 AM »
The Churchill has lots of frontal armor but not much on the side. (16mm for the MKIV) Well we can add the MkII and MkIII for early and midwar. Then we can add the Cromwell for late war.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2011, 01:18:03 PM »
Quote from: AHTbolt on July 20, 2011, 07:13:32 AM
What!!! The 75mm gun was not a bored out 57mm/6lber.

ROQF 75mm was indeed a bored out ROQF 6lber. ROQF stand for "Royal Ordnance Quick Firing" in case you're wondering.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2011, 02:32:36 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 20, 2011, 07:12:50 AM
Get better at avoiding flack fire. I killed 3 flackers in an Il-2 three days ago. I swooped in and killed them in the middle of 4 wirbs, 2 osties, and an M16.

Flackers are EASILY avoided unless they have uncommon skill level. I vulched two planes today (yeah, I know, I was bored) on a flack covered runway today and made it back to base without so much as a ping.
Right.  Time for a full on advocation of adding the Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII 'Tse-tse' to AH.

The attitude you show in this thread only screams for the fans of, you know, aerial crap in a flight sim to push back.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2011, 04:31:00 PM »
This is a thread about GV's. Don't read it if you don't wan to hear a pro-GV, anit-tankbuster attitude in here.

No offense sir, but did you expect the tankers to be overjoyed at the suggestion of what would be possibley the most devestating GV killer if added?

Tsetse added at some undetermined time? yes. tsetse added before we get an effective counter to aircraft hellbent on killing us? no.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2011, 07:09:40 PM »
The US 75mm was a progression from the French 75mm of WWI, The US modified it to the 75mm M1897 field gun then to the M3 tank gun. The U.S. version of the 57mm/6pounder, classified as substitute standard under the designation 57 mm Gun M1, was based on the 6 pounder Mk 2 but with a longer barrel.
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Re: The Churchill
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2011, 07:18:58 PM »
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