Shhhh.... I'm Secretly Shelling the Base.

[AKP]

"Very simple if you would just allow a manned gun position making base flash just like a GV."

probably mean cv's hardly ever used, I say leave it as is.

While I agree that using CV's to attack a base would be harder, it would only mean that new tactics would have to be used.  It doesnt mean that they would hardly ever get used.

I could see if the cv is in dar, maybe something happens. You can still shell the town outside dar,. But all and all Im not into this suggestion.

If they were to go with the suggestion of making the base flash when a gun is manned inside detection range, then you COULD hit the base from further out, without making it flash.  But you wouldnt be able to sit right offshore and do it.  Nor should you be.

Leaving it as is would be leaving it unrealistic and gamey...  and in fact... way too easy to do.  The recurring theme is that this is a game about combat... not stealing undefended bases without anyone knowing.

[icepac]

What detection range are we discussing for the cv before base starts flashing?

I can take down a base with a tank without flashing it.

That said, I've only seen 5% of attempts to take a base with a stealth cv succeed.

[AKP]

Personally, I would think it should be the same warning range as an aircraft...  GV detection range would still be almost right off the beach.  And if done properly, without anyone upping before the town and base are totally flat.. this type of attack can work most of the time.

I have been on both ends of it.  It is very effective.

[Krusty]

With CV AAA and puffy ack as lethal as it is, I say a CV shouldn't be allowed to park off a field, even if nobody is actively trying to shell anything. This thing would have been spotted and sunk 100 miles before it got off shore of a major airfield.

But having AI shore batteries fire and sink CVs if they get too close, you wouldn't have this anymore. Either 1) People move a CV in too close trying to be weak/lame and it is sunk, or 2) They are actively USING the CV and up sorties to bomb/kill the AI SBs before they sink the CV. In that case -- if they are serious -- there's no problem. In the case of CVs harrassing airfleids, the AI will protect them and stop the milk runners or griefers.

[AKP]

A visual aid to help illustrate my point.

[mechanic]

Well, can't argue with that logic ^^

+1

[MK-84]

^^cant argue with that either...now that you look at it that way

[LCCajun]

I understand the OP's concern and wish, but if you change it to where you can't sneak a base with a cv then guess what. The cv's are just gonna be put in a far corner of the map and never used. Now if you can implement a way to stop hiding the cv's than by all means give the OP his wish to.

[slayem]

Quite a compelling case you make AKP.

[lyric1]

Not sure I would tinker to much with things of late. Too many people leaving because of changes they can't deal with. Not opposed to the idea though.

[waystin2]

My thoughts on flashing a base that is being shelled by a CV group came from reading this on the trainers site:

Bar-Dar refers to the green and red bars which appear at the top of each sector containing friendly and/or enemy. It simulates a countrys total air defense warning system of spotters and reports giving a general location of planes.

I highlighted the area that is pertinent to the flashing of a base when a CV is shelling.  Don't you think those same spotters and reports would notice 5" & 8" shells raining down on a town or a field?  Ever lived near an Army artillery range when they are doing live fire exercises?  You can hear that stuff for miles.

[caldera]

A visual aid to help illustrate my point.

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Checkmate.     No warning while the town and/or base gets obliterated is silly. 

So are CV groups parked in the low wake zones offshore. 

[Devil 505]

Aircraft and GV's set off the base flash because they are manned, so the coding already exists for this.  All that would need to change would be to have a gun battery that is manned send the same data to the tower.

Are you sure about this? Any aircraft or GV's will be manned, I've never seen an unmanned plane or tank just cruising arround. Have you?

[AKP]

Are you sure about this? Any aircraft or GV's will be manned, I've never seen an unmanned plane or tank just cruising arround. Have you?

Hehe... my point was that everything else besides guns that are manned... set off the base alarm.  So it should be easy to make a gun battery appear as an aircraft would as far as tower warning range goes... especially since they are both manned.

[j500ss]

Checkmate.     No warning while the town and/or base gets obliterated is silly. 

So are CV groups parked in the low wake zones offshore.