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Offline grizz441

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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2011, 12:21:13 PM »
We've all seen the hordes of spit16's in that lake. So in all fairness the spit16 should be banned along the same lines as the me262 is: Because its the top flown plane by a LARGE margin.

This is the worst logic I have ever heard.  Why would you ban a plane that your customers obviously love to fly?

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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2011, 12:21:35 PM »
No, When the lake tends to become nothing more than a cloud of 1 plane, then there is a problem.I am not the only one in the lake that shares this view.

But still, as ive been saying. the ME262 was banned because it would become too popular in the lake. the spit16 is VERY popular in the lake.
So ether ban the spit16, for the same reasons the me262 is banned, or give us the me262, because that whole "too popular" doesn't seem to matter to every aircraft.


and Vudu... maybe you should learn to fight the ME262 in the DA outside your comfort zone...so unban the me262, or get out of the game, if you "Cant hack it".

So your counter to the Spit 16 would be the 262 which would be an E fighter that needs alt to work with.  Seems to me a Tempest, Mustang, C Hog or any number of other birds could solve your problem.  

I sure don't care if what you are really after is the 262. I've long been of the unperk em all, let em fly what that want crowd.   But using the 16 as your excuse is just silly.
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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2011, 12:24:37 PM »
1 plane vs 10 spit16s is an almost-unwinniable situation. get on 1 of there 6's, you get 5 more on yours.

Either learn to deal with it, or do something else.  Asking that HTC prevent those players from flying how they'd like is silly.

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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2011, 12:25:20 PM »
This is the worst logic I have ever heard.  Why would you ban a plane that your customers obviously love to fly?
Is it? the ME 262 is a beloved plane to fly, you out of all people should know this grizz, yet its banned from the DA is it not?


So your counter to the Spit 16 would be the 262 which would be an E fighter that needs alt to work with.  Seems to me a Tempest, Mustang, C Hog or any number of other birds could solve your problem.  

I sure don't care if what you are really after is the 262. I've long been of the unperk em all, let em fly what that want crowd.   But using the 16 as your excuse is just silly.
no guppy, your still missing the point.
I dont want the me262 in the DA. but from what i know, the ME262 is banned from the DA because of its dreaded popularity.
the spit16 has the popularity of the lake by a HUGE margin.
So going by all rights, the spit16 should be banned for the same reason the me262 is banned.

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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2011, 12:27:02 PM »
1 plane vs 10 spit16s is an almost-unwinniable situation. get on 1 of there 6's, you get 5 more on yours.

Ah man dude if only you would have engaged those 10 bad guys and they weren't Spit16s, you would have pwned them all.  


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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2011, 12:28:26 PM »
I guess the DA has the F3 for new users and such like practicing, getting used to the game etc.


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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2011, 12:29:05 PM »
Ive never had an issue with any 262s SA saves you with those cats. I flew in there the other day just checkin my j/s and I saw 1 D9, 1 spit16, 2 p51s, a 202, I was flyin a hurri1 and I saw a Brew. and I think one hog of some type wasn't a C though.

So Ill check in this evening for a 16 Horde. Horde that's a heck of a Buzzword in here, bet those 17 drivers over Berlin wanted HTC to step in and get rid of those hordes of LW fighters for em.
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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2011, 12:30:10 PM »
Is it? the ME 262 is a beloved plane to fly, you out of all people should know this grizz, yet its banned from the DA is it not?

no guppy, your still missing the point.
I dont want the me262 in the DA. but from what i know, the ME262 is banned from the DA because of its dreaded popularity.
the spit16 has the popularity of the lake by a HUGE margin.
So going by all rights, the spit16 should be banned for the same reason the me262 is banned.

So you'd ban a furball airplane from furball lake because it gets under your skin because too many people fly it in your opinion.  Still sounds like you want the game changed to make it easier for you.

So you lose all the 16s and they move into Spit VIIIs.  Would that be better?
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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2011, 12:31:00 PM »
So you'd ban a furball airplane from furball lake because it gets under your skin because too many people fly it in your opinion.  Still sounds like you want the game changed to make it easier for you.

So you lose all the 16s and they move into Spit VIIIs.  Would that be better?

Spit VIII is more uber anyway :P
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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2011, 12:31:56 PM »
Spit VIII is more uber anyway :P

I prefer it to the XVI.
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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2011, 12:33:19 PM »
VIII and XVI are the same performance specs, for all intents and purposes.

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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2011, 12:33:26 PM »
Is it? the ME 262 is a beloved plane to fly, you out of all people should know this grizz, yet its banned from the DA is it not?

no guppy, your still missing the point.
I dont want the me262 in the DA. but from what i know, the ME262 is banned from the DA because of its dreaded popularity.
the spit16 has the popularity of the lake by a HUGE margin.
So going by all rights, the spit16 should be banned for the same reason the me262 is banned.

The 262 is banned because it is a detriment to a furball with everyone flying perkless jets around.  It's just too polarizing, either be in a jet or be killed by a jet, thus turning it into Jet Lake.

There's nothing detrimental at all about a spit16.  In fact, they are quite easy to kill.  It's just another propeller airplane flown by the unskilled masses.

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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2011, 12:34:03 PM »
I dont want the me262 in the DA. but from what i know, the ME262 is banned from the DA because of its dreaded popularity.
the spit16 has the popularity of the lake by a HUGE margin.

I'd be willing to speculate comfortably that there is a teensy bit more reason than its 'dreaded popularity'.  One possible factor might be the ~80-100mph speed difference between it and the fastest prop planes.  If the jet driver has a bit of basic competence and has a ton of patience, it practically can't be touched by anything else.  Yes, yes, the spixteen has a lot of great qualities, but nothing that is as easily exploitable as that speed difference alone.

Sorry, Tyrannis, but it's not even a close comparison.

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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2011, 12:36:04 PM »
"Ah man dude if only you would have engaged those 10 bad guys and they weren't Spit16s,
you would have pwned them all. "

lol.  bullseye :)


Wish HTC would add this.




Would really give the whiner a coronary.

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Re: The Inequity of it all
« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2011, 12:39:49 PM »
The spit16 can outturn almost anything flown, climb with almost everything flown, and can outrun almost everything flown.

If you are available tonight or tomorrow after 8:30pm est, I'll show you how to defeat a Spit16 that is higher than you. In fact, you'll find that defeating higher Spit16s is actually easier than many co-alt Spit16s. Against someone that knows what they are doing it is a different story but then again, it wouldn't matter what airframe the experienced guy is in.
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