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Offline mechanic

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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2011, 11:05:05 AM »
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2011, 11:08:28 AM »
Quote from: fbWldcat on July 31, 2011, 07:55:10 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agelena

We have them all over the place here in KY. Fastest sons a bishes you'll ever see. They have holes in their webs for them to hide in and ambush prey when it gets caught in the silk.

Edit: Wiki says it is only native to the old world and Europe and Africa all the way to Japan... It would be wrong. The genus is world-wide (to my knowledge).


funnel weaver, also called grass spider,  any of certain members of the spider family Agelenidae (order Araneida). Agelenids are notable for their funnel-shaped webs; they are a common group with many species that are distributed worldwide. The webs are built in the grass, under boards and rocks, and among debris. Agelena naevia, a common North American species, varies greatly in size and colour. The body of the male may be up to 8 millimetres (about 1/3 inch) long; the female grows to about 19 millimetres (about 3/4 inch). Two wide, dark stripes often extend the length of the body to make the basic pattern of the abdomen.
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Look familiar?

Grass spiders only creep me out because they are big.  You can't kill them with a simple slap of newspaper.  Usually takes a shoe or baseball bat.  Fiddle backs are tiny and delicate.  They don't bit you like a rattle snake, they have to feed while you're sleeping.
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2011, 11:14:37 AM »
Quote from: Tupac on July 31, 2011, 01:41:49 AM
Looks like a brown recluse. It has the "fiddle" behind its eyes.

Which eye, spiders have like 8? :)
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2011, 11:25:57 AM »
Quote from: Rash on July 31, 2011, 11:14:37 AM
Which eye, spiders have like 8? :)

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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2011, 11:42:48 AM »
Quote from: Melvin on July 31, 2011, 02:16:22 AM
It's about the size of a nickel?

It's harmless.

all spiders are poisonous.
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2011, 11:52:39 AM »
Quote from: CAP1 on July 31, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
all spiders are poisonous.
Right but different spiders use various forms and amounts of venom thats why  only 2 spiders in the US can cause fatality.

On that note I know the widow uses a neural toxin and the recluse some kind of dissolving agent that eats flesh, forget the particular name of it but my friend was bit by a pretty nasty spider (i assume the recluse) because he had a gaping hold in his arm the size of a quarter and it wasn't very pretty to look at. He used some heavy anti biotics (I know if it was a recluse he would need anti venom) and it went away in a few months.
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2011, 11:54:18 AM »
Quote from: F22RaptorDude on July 31, 2011, 11:52:39 AM
Right but different spiders use various forms and amounts of venom thats why  only 2 spiders in the US can cause fatality.


depending on the person, any spider....hell....any insect or bug that bites, or stings can cause fatalities.
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2011, 11:57:56 AM »
Quote from: CAP1 on July 31, 2011, 11:54:18 AM

depending on the person, any spider....hell....any insect or bug that bites, or stings can cause fatalities.
Well I meant most common to cause fatality in humans. Being allergic is a whole nother story and if you get bit by more than one of them at a time. Lots of factors but I was just getting my main point across that there are only 2 known killers.
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2011, 12:05:30 PM »
Odd little factoid, the daddy long legs has the most potent venom in spider terms - fortunately (unfortunately if your the daddy long legs obviously) it has no teeth lol.........ripped off or what?

Wurz (living in the desert with black widow's and brown recluses - none of which survive a size 9 delivered at 235 pounds per square inch!!)
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2011, 12:13:08 PM »
Quote from: gpwurzel on July 31, 2011, 12:05:30 PM
Odd little factoid, the daddy long legs has the most potent venom in spider terms - fortunately (unfortunately if your the daddy long legs obviously) it has no teeth lol.........ripped off or what?

Wurz (living in the desert with black widow's and brown recluses - none of which survive a size 9 delivered at 235 pounds per square inch!!)
Not true actually daddy long legs venom couldn't kill a mouse if it was bit 20 times. Mythbusters extracted the venom and injected it into a mouse, they didn't have to use antivenom at all the mouse showed no signs of the poison doing anything.
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2011, 12:14:11 PM »
be glad we don't have these in the us.

DOH!!!

and now for the link.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solifugae
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2011, 12:17:58 PM »
Quote from: F22RaptorDude on July 31, 2011, 12:13:08 PM
Not true actually daddy long legs venom couldn't kill a mouse if it was bit 20 times. Mythbusters extracted the venom and injected it into a mouse, they didn't have to use antivenom at all the mouse showed no signs of the poison doing anything.

Really? bugger ......oh well, back to bed for me then

Wurz
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2011, 12:21:57 PM »
Quote from: gpwurzel on July 31, 2011, 12:17:58 PM
Really? bugger ......oh well, back to bed for me then

Wurz

Just wait until they mutate...  :devil
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2011, 12:30:41 PM »
Quote from: EskimoJoe on July 31, 2011, 12:21:57 PM
Just wait until they mutate...  :devil
Even if they do i'ma still tear their legs off and leave em like that  :rofl
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Re: Anyone want to ID a dead, small spider?
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2011, 01:21:33 PM »
Quote from: F22RaptorDude on July 31, 2011, 11:52:39 AM
Right but different spiders use various forms and amounts of venom thats why  only 2 spiders in the US can cause fatality.

On that note I know the widow uses a neural toxin and the recluse some kind of dissolving agent that eats flesh, forget the particular name of it but my friend was bit by a pretty nasty spider (i assume the recluse) because he had a gaping hold in his arm the size of a quarter and it wasn't very pretty to look at. He used some heavy anti biotics (I know if it was a recluse he would need anti venom) and it went away in a few months.

I heard that too.  I don't test, I just smash them with a bat.
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