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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2011, 08:44:31 PM »
Yeah, but even at 50mph, you probably won't evade heavy fire for very long. I figure a mad dash through the spawn, getting a side hit if there is one, but other than that just pumping shells at a single target you want dead.

Not picturing it as a stand off weapon at all.
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2011, 11:24:58 PM »
You can't possible pitch the T34/85 against the M-18 or Nashorn for a few reasons. One the T34/85 was a medium tank, designed to break through and engage, where the Nashorn was designed as a tank hunter on defense from a hull down position miles away for range shots. The M-18 required to flank tanks using speed, and hoping in Aces high there isn't a Fokker DR1 around to put the turret out of position.

All 3 tanks have different roles in Aces high, and the strategies for them have to be used accordingly. Surely you wouldn't take an M4(75) up for a GV Base defense, where as you wouldn't spawn an M-18 to an enemy airfield while ords are up.

Sure you could, but it would result in massive 200 whine :)

I never compared the T-34 with anything.
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2011, 11:47:03 PM »
I demand the elefant!!!

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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2011, 01:22:22 AM »
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2011, 08:55:58 AM »
Yeah, but even at 50mph, you probably won't evade heavy fire for very long. I figure a mad dash through the spawn, getting a side hit if there is one, but other than that just pumping shells at a single target you want dead.

Not picturing it as a stand off weapon at all.
jager, butch, dunno bout you guys but blowing through the enemy's flanks at high speed in an M8 or M-18 Lite is very effective and very deadly
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2011, 09:07:14 AM »
jager, butch, dunno bout you guys but blowing through the enemy's flanks at high speed in an M8 or M-18 Lite is very effective and very deadly

I know you tried a few times against me, except I had the high grounds and hull down position :)
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2011, 09:11:31 AM »
I feel a need to also point out that flanking doesn't have to be done in plain view, its ok to extend out  past the view of your enemy and approach unseen.
I read a few posts where people clearly do not understand that concept.

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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2011, 10:04:50 AM »
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2011, 01:42:28 PM »
jager, butch, dunno bout you guys but blowing through the enemy's flanks at high speed in an M8 or M-18 Lite is very effective and very deadly

OK, so V135 at its worst. You spawn in, turn the turret, fire, and then you explode. Thats it. end of story. period.

M18 (or M18 lite) can zip around, and get off a few rounds before being hit (and killed, given this thing's armor). Speed doesn't mean you won't get hit, it just means you go longer without being hit.
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2011, 05:19:41 PM »
OK, so V135 at its worst. You spawn in, turn the turret, fire, and then you explode. Thats it. end of story. period.

M18 (or M18 lite) can zip around, and get off a few rounds before being hit (and killed, given this thing's armor). Speed doesn't mean you won't get hit, it just means you go longer without being hit.


Let's use a bit of common sense here.
1 second: 1 shot.
6 seconds (or so): 2 shots
12seconds: 3 shots.
So...... Do you see where this is going? The longer you're alive, the longer you have to do damage. So with that being said, speed is very important.
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2011, 05:46:31 PM »
Oh sure, if there's only a few campers then theres a decent possibility you'll be able to kill them all. But V135 and V85 are notorious for having campers skilled and plentiful.

A couple of camers? ok. 5-6? it starting to get a little sketchy. 7-8? odds are that one of those shells will hit you eventually.
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2011, 12:39:11 AM »
Oh sure, if there's only a few campers then theres a decent possibility you'll be able to kill them all. But V135 and V85 are notorious for having campers skilled and plentiful.

A couple of camers? ok. 5-6? it starting to get a little sketchy. 7-8? odds are that one of those shells will hit you eventually.

And what is the chance that they'll all see you? You probably won't be the only guy out there, anyway. Flanking at camped bases isn't as hard as you make it out to be, if you are willing to put in a bit of extra time, you can do it with ease.
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2011, 07:02:22 AM »
OK, so V135 at its worst. You spawn in, turn the turret, fire, and then you explode. Thats it. end of story. period.

M18 (or M18 lite) can zip around, and get off a few rounds before being hit (and killed, given this thing's armor). Speed doesn't mean you won't get hit, it just means you go longer without being hit.
you basically just said it's logical to up a perk ride to a known heavy camp when you know even KT's wont last in that mess... real logical...

Listen every GV in this game has an advantage and disadvantage vs all the other GVs. some like the tigers have armor and firepower, others like the T34s and light vehicles use speed. Ther M-18 would use speed and most sane people wouldnt up anything perked into a large camp...

I know you tried a few times against me, except I had the high grounds and hull down position :)
yeah that wasnt the best day for my speed demons VS you :) thankfully i upped a panther later eh? :aok (also the way i got the perks for the panther was from my M3 in that valley from hell :ahand
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2011, 12:57:00 PM »
I'm not a newb BAR, I know the basics of armor combat. I ought to after going on 7 years with Aces High.


I'm not saying that the M18 wouldn't be superior to many (even most) tanks as a camp breaker, I'm just saying that at a heavy camp, speed doesn't mean you don't die, it just means you avoid death for longer.
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Re: Answer to the New King Tiger
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2011, 10:25:47 PM »
I'm not a newb BAR, I know the basics of armor combat. I ought to after going on 7 years with Aces High.


I'm not saying that the M18 wouldn't be superior to many (even most) tanks as a camp breaker, I'm just saying that at a heavy camp, speed doesn't mean you don't die, it just means you avoid death for longer.

But it doesn't mean you're useless and doing nothing but dragging out the process, either.
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