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Offline B-17

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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2011, 11:24:06 PM »
Ok. So I read this thread, and thought it wasn't a bad idea. +1 :aok

But then it dawned on me...where would you be refueling this plane from, with you in your Jeep/M3?

There is no way in HECK that I could land a P-51 or a Mossie on the ground, away from a base of any sort-- the tall, steel wannabe trees make that impossible, and so do those hedges.

If you are going to land at a friendly base of any sort, you may as well just end the Sortie there, rather than trying to reach where you left from.

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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2011, 11:26:47 PM »
Show me a point in the war where a vehicle was driven miles to refuel a fighter that managed to safely land and I might support it.
There is no way in HECK that I could land a P-51 or a Mossie on the ground, away from a base of any sort-- the tall, steel wannabe trees make that impossible, and so do those hedges.

...I've landed plenty of times in the wilderness, sometimes those evil "combat ditches" to deny kills, even. It isn't that hard.
Then again, some people can't take off from a turning carrier either...
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2011, 09:27:01 AM »
What about introducing that german motorbike halftrack to tow planes back to the field?

After we get the M-18 naturally.
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2011, 10:23:15 AM »
A huge

-1

It is bad enough we have people demanding supplies for their tank as it is. Heck, if I had my way, I would make the time required to wait for supplies to take effect much higher or remove the supplies from the game altogether.
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2011, 10:39:42 AM »
I do plan to rtb with a safety margin but. The idea is to give the game another option. If ya fly some of the earlyer war ac like i do fuel is always a problem. Late War ac like 51ds will at times do nothing more than try to keep ya turning to waste your fuel especially if your rtb. So if ya survive that whats the problem with having a squadie  refuel ya?


Do we really need a concession in-game to counteract the fact that one has been outflown or outfoxed now?
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2011, 10:55:15 AM »
Nope.  Plan accordingly... :aok
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2011, 11:36:44 AM »
Remember in world war two there were Satellite fields set up in place for aircraft to refuel or rearm, Iwo Jima is a prime example of what happens when a plane needs a little help, however air dropping fuel I don't think its necessary in Aces High.

If you get hit in the fuel tanks or run out of gas, then its just another bad example of "things happen". You can up another plane 5 seconds later :)
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2011, 11:50:51 AM »
I really don't know what the problem is with this idea its another thing that could add to the fun of the game. Heck add a big fireball to a jeep or M3 that is carrying fuel when ya shoot it. I don't know how much effort on Hts part it would take to implement but it looks like most of the tools for this option are already in place with instant tank repairs in the field.

Oh and Von catching a low rtb early war ac and doing nothing but harassing it is a far cry from out flying it. If it was outflown it would be shot down not landing in the woods hoping for a light refuel. Heck that's right up there with jumping it with three other AC and bragging about how they were owned :lol
I haven't ever had you do something like that so the comment wasn't personal.
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2011, 12:07:03 PM »
I really don't know what the problem is with this idea its another thing that could add to the fun of the game. Heck add a big fireball to a jeep or M3 that is carrying fuel when ya shoot it. I don't know how much effort on HTs part it would take to implement but it looks like most of the tools for this option are already in place with instant tank repairs in the field.

Anyone waiting for you to ditch to kill would vulch your arse while you are getting fuel on the ground.

It would not fix a leak in your fuel tank.

Rearming/refueling as it is modeled now, does not effect repairs to your plane.  If you have a leak and refuel, you leave the field with a full tank of gas...

that still leaks...
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2011, 12:14:13 PM »
I didn't say any thing about fixing leaks but most Ac in here have multiple tanks.

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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2011, 01:03:34 PM »
I didn't say any thing about fixing leaks but most Ac in here have multiple tanks.


I must have been confused by this statement...

I really don't know what the problem is with this idea its another thing that could add to the fun of the game. Heck add a big fireball to a jeep or M3 that is carrying fuel when ya shoot it. I don't know how much effort on Hts part it would take to implement but it looks like most of the tools for this option are already in place with instant tank repairs in the field.

Oh and Von catching a low rtb early war ac and doing nothing but harassing it is a far cry from out flying it. If it was outflown it would be shot down not landing in the woods hoping for a light refuel. Heck that's right up there with jumping it with three other AC and bragging about how they were owned :lol
I haven't ever had you do something like that so the comment wasn't personal.
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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2011, 01:19:35 PM »
-1  I think it will encourage people to take less than what they truly need for fuel.  As for the concept of "what if i get a fuel leak"  You can switch your tanks so that you don't fully drain them all.  That would allow you a reserve if one tank gets hit.  I usually take 100% fuel in all fighters, thats my saftey margin.  For example in a FW190A8 I burn the aft down, then switch to my forward tank, leaving my reserve as a reserve.

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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2011, 01:28:15 PM »
-1  I think it will encourage people to take less than what they truly need for fuel.  As for the concept of "what if i get a fuel leak"  You can switch your tanks so that you don't fully drain them all.  That would allow you a reserve if one tank gets hit.  I usually take 100% fuel in all fighters, thats my saftey margin.  For example in a FW190A8 I burn the aft down, then switch to my forward tank, leaving my reserve as a reserve.


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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 05:25:17 PM »
-1. just because your fuel tanks run dry or you happen to lose fuel, thats your fault. plan accordingly. i always take 100% no matter what im flying, just be smart about your fuel and you will get the spotlight you need so much.

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Re: Ac fuel as a supply drop
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 05:36:48 PM »
I do plan to rtb with a safety margin but. The idea is to give the game another option. If ya fly some of the earlyer war ac like i do fuel is always a problem. Late War ac like 51ds will at times do nothing more than try to keep ya turning to waste your fuel especially if your rtb. So if ya survive that whats the problem with having a squadie  refuel ya?

Translation: I ran out of gas with 2 kills and couldn't make it back to base for my name in lights!
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