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Offline Melvin

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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2011, 02:45:17 PM »
I have to ask, how much experience do you have with long-range rifle shooting?

I only ask because it is a rather difficult and technical undertaking.

If your experience level is low, you'll want a rifle with inexpensive rounds due to the fact that you'll want to put in a LOT of practice before you go out and try it on a live animal.

Remember, the animal is giving everything it has, the shooter should respect the hunt enough to be proficient at his task. Wounding an animal is a terrible feeling (I've done it), but to wound an animal through lack of preparation is unforgivable.

This isn't meant to be degrading towards you in any way, just wanted to give some food for thought.

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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2011, 02:55:56 PM »
.270 and 30-06 is akin to Chevy v Ford, just so you know.

My family shoots .270, great flat trajectory with a smaller grain bullet. Great for deer, can handle elk but you need a well placed shot. 30-06 is heavier, great gun and more then enough for elk and moose. For bear either will do if you place the bullet well though a 7mm is better just in case you only get one good shot. Problem I hear with 7mm (not having shot one) is the kick tends to cause flinching and jerking on the trigger so accuracy is a mess.

As for the .308, can't say though if you go with the 30-06 you won't have any regrets, certainly considering the availability of rounds.

Scope, I have a Leopold. A little more expensive but worth it. With scope, what ever you go with find a good gunsmith for the mount. More then anything a sloppy mount will cause you confidence problems.

Good luck and post pictures of what you kill. I brag that my family owns the largest set of 2-point Mule Deer horns ever taken. 30" spread. If I knew how to post pictures I would post them. If someone knows how I could email it to them and they could post. You won't believe it until you see it. Taken in the Ponsigont, Southern Utah back when they grew real Mule Deer.

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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2011, 04:01:38 PM »
Savage or a Howa.

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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2011, 04:56:19 PM »
Its ok I can just go akimbo.
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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2011, 05:02:56 PM »
308 is the round I prefer.  More manageable recoil, a bit flatter traj out to 300 yrds or so and still uses the mean old tried and tested .30 cal. 

30-06 works great too.

I wouldn't turn down either of those rifles.
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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2011, 05:03:18 PM »

If your experience level is low, you'll want a rifle with inexpensive rounds due to the fact that you'll want to put in a LOT of practice before you go out and try it on a live animal.

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YUP! :aok  Thats why I wont shoot past 200 unless I am absolutly confident in my ability, even after a looong stalk.  I have to much respect for the animal to get sloppy during a hunt. Not to mention I don't want to track and haul a bad shot in these hills! I'm not in SC any more.  There's eyes in these hills and they are hungrier than I am!
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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2011, 05:08:19 PM »
YUP! :aok  Thats why I wont shoot past 200 unless I am absolutly confident in my ability, even after a looong stalk.  I have to much respect for the animal to get sloppy during a hunt. Not to mention I don't want to track and haul a bad shot in these hills! I'm not in SC any more.  There's eyes in these hills and they are hungrier than I am!

Great attitude.  :aok

Whatever rifle you choose, we wish you a safe and successful hunt.

(I'd go with the '06 myself. Becinhu's Winchester Model 70 is an all around dream in my honest opinion.)
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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2011, 05:33:04 PM »
Toe Tag........I live in Kalispell and Hunt in the Lincoln Area.  GET THE .30 06 Ive killed Many ELK as far out as 437 yards. Use a 180 Grn Round I prefer the Nosler accu bond or Partition. Both very deadly. Get the premium round if your planning shooting over 200 yards. If not then get the $20.00 a box stuff.

Also look at the Burris Fullfield II for a scope. Great price and it has increments for up to 500 yards. They work. BTW I shoot a Remington Model 721 Made in 1957. and my daughter shoots its twin in a .270.  Dont get the .270  NOT Great for elk.....

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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2011, 05:50:14 PM »
i shoot a Husqavarna Nitro 30.06 real fine big game rifle. as far as the bigger rounds wrecking meat, that's hogwash. Shot placement determines the damage, just make a clean shot.

Agreed......I think the 300's and up are overkill...

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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2011, 05:53:27 PM »
Seriously look at the Howa, the Ranchland for a nice compact rifle comes in 308, and the 1500 comes in both 308 and 30-06.

We don't have the same sort of big game as much as you do in the US (for me its feral pigs, feral goats, fallow deer, and red deer). So I have ranchland in a 243 with a Nilkon scope on it. It's a beautiful hitter, took this fallow in the back of the head at 275 yards:



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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2011, 06:10:22 PM »
Forget the fuel tank, I'm just wondering how you made that great shot with yellow duct tape all over your face.

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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2011, 06:21:44 PM »
Nice mount Kam...did you do that?  Also did I mention that I am a complete Noob here in MT?  Would like to know where to go.  Also is there a chance that I won't get a licence here?  The whole lottery thing kinda has me timid about being able to hunt and purchasing a rifle.
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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2011, 07:00:45 PM »
Lottery?  Be here for 6 months become a resident and get   "A" tags.  Yes I killed that 6 x 6 and my daughter and I got the 2 bulls...and deer.

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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2011, 08:42:36 PM »
Savage. You have a lot of hunting experience telling you the same thing in this thread.
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Re: Need a entry level rifle...but which one?
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2011, 08:50:02 PM »
Wouldn't trade my Ruger M77 in 30-06 for the world.

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