Author Topic: next new air craft?  (Read 16578 times)

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #120 on: September 01, 2011, 05:57:08 PM »
B-17,

The Ju88A-4 carries 6,600lbs of bombs in AH.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline B-17

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2672
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #121 on: September 01, 2011, 09:18:14 PM »
:x Wow... I'm sorry... I was away from my computer, and had no Aces High to refer to. Whoops.

Offline Krusty

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 26745
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #122 on: September 02, 2011, 09:47:45 AM »
either the 'P' or the 'H'. ~5000 lbs could be carried internally, rather the the Ju-88's 800 kg (?), with a combination of internal and external.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)

You are extremely wrong.

It could carry 2000kg internally depending on the version, or it could carry 2 large bombs on external racks. The external racks could carry 1 1800kg (i.e. same as the Stuka's big cookie in-game) or 2x 1000kg bombs. Note, however, that the external mounted racks covered the bomb bay doors almost entirely, and you could not carry internal ord with external. It was simply a consideration that the vertical racks inside the He111 were small in size. Even if they could hold the bombs' weight, they couldn't fit the bombs' size, so they put the bombs on external racks.

The He111 is not important because it is better than the Ju88. The Ju88 is generally easier to produce, serverd in larger numbers and in greater roles, carried out more tasks, and carried more bombs higher and faster.

The He111 is important for an early war bomber with lesser capabilities before the Ju88 was as common. It is vital to have a slower bomber for a Battle of Britain scenario or any other Battle-of-(fillintheblank) from those early years. It was also found in other theaters.

Offline tmetal

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2279
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #123 on: September 02, 2011, 10:13:37 AM »
B17, not sure if you ran into this problem or not, but just keep in mind that 1000kg is roughly equal to 2200lbs. you have to multiply kilos by 2.2 to get a close estimate conversion to pounds.  It seems a lot of people just look at the numbers in the hangar bomb load selection and don't consider kilos vs pounds.  I had one player try to convince me that the 500lb bomb is a bigger and heavier bomb than the 250kg bomb in game.
The real problem is anyone should feel like they can come to this forum and make a wish without being treated in a derogatory manner.  The only discussion should be centered around whether it would work, or how it would work and so on always in a respectful manner.

-Skuzzy 5/18/17

Offline B-17

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2672
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #124 on: September 02, 2011, 11:26:36 AM »
Yeah, I didn't convert.

Thank you, Krusty. :)

Offline chris3

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 690
      • http://www.ludwigs-hobby-seite.de/
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #125 on: September 02, 2011, 12:06:23 PM »
moin

hello krusty, please explain why you are thinking that the you he 111 is better than the ju 88?

ju 88 is faster, better armed, carryes more, it can dive as the he111, or im wrong?

but the he 111 with v1 lounch option would be nice  :D

cu christian

Offline tmetal

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2279
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #126 on: September 02, 2011, 01:05:23 PM »
I think krusty was saying the He111 is better for use in early war situations when compaired to the Ju88, because the Ju88 is faster and has a better usefull bombload it out performs other planes from the early war era.  That being said, in the MA; Ju88 vs He111 the Ju88 is the better bomber.
The real problem is anyone should feel like they can come to this forum and make a wish without being treated in a derogatory manner.  The only discussion should be centered around whether it would work, or how it would work and so on always in a respectful manner.

-Skuzzy 5/18/17

Offline chris3

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 690
      • http://www.ludwigs-hobby-seite.de/
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #127 on: September 02, 2011, 01:44:52 PM »
moin

ah, ok. sorry didn t get lol.
sure thats true.

cu christian

Offline PJ_Godzilla

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2661
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #128 on: September 02, 2011, 02:31:00 PM »
I'm so glad we're using a thread entitled "next new aircraft" to talk about one we already have.

Besides, it should be the 410 - and I want the same kewl 2x12.7 rear defensive arma and the same kewl fence-type dive brakes. And it better have that kewl glass nose. I mean, I could see some risk with that but whoever ho's a 410 has to be pretty brassy anyway.
Some say revenge is a dish best served cold. I say it's usually best served hot, chunky, and foaming. Eventually, you will all die in my vengeance vomit firestorm.

Offline Krusty

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 26745
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #129 on: September 02, 2011, 04:05:38 PM »
I think krusty was saying the He111 is better for use in early war situations when compaired to the Ju88, because the Ju88 is faster and has a better usefull bombload it out performs other planes from the early war era.  That being said, in the MA; Ju88 vs He111 the Ju88 is the better bomber.

Precisamente!  :aok

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #130 on: September 02, 2011, 04:25:31 PM »
I think krusty was saying the He111 is better for use in early war situations when compaired to the Ju88, because the Ju88 is faster and has a better usefull bombload it out performs other planes from the early war era.  That being said, in the MA; Ju88 vs He111 the Ju88 is the better bomber.
I'd like to see a Wellington B.Mk III added eventually for the same reason.  The Boston Mk III is just too fast for the Bf109E-4 and Bf110C-4b to counter.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Krusty

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 26745
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #131 on: September 02, 2011, 04:46:37 PM »
Short of some realistic throttle management for all heavy bombers so they don't run at unhistorical full speeds, that would be a good addition to the planeset.

But if in reality a Boston III outran the enemy fighters? Hah! Imagine it! As if!

That's why bombers in this game are way outta whack. They are the equivelant of Me262s for the fighter set.

Offline skorpion

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3798
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #132 on: September 02, 2011, 04:50:00 PM »
once again, you are all pansies. P47D22 is the next new A/C.

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #133 on: September 02, 2011, 06:43:04 PM »
The squadron that went from Boston Mk IIIs to Mosquito B.Mk IVs was apparently extremely happy to get the upgrade.  I am not sure the upgrade would be all that significant in AH, going from about 340mph to 380mph.


skorpion,

What does the P-47D-22 bring to the table?
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline B-17

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2672
Re: next new air craft?
« Reply #134 on: September 02, 2011, 10:01:51 PM »
What does the P-47D-22 bring to the table?

:rofl

It's like adding another Spitfire, or the TBF-1.