next new air craft?

[ACE]

I want an aircraft thats a figther and will compete in the Late war arena

[Karnak]

I want an aircraft thats a figther and will compete in the Late war arena

Those are getting scarce.

Yak-3 would probably top the list.  G.55, J2M3/J2M5 or Ki-44-II might also make the list.  I can't think of anything the Germans, Americans or Brits have that would be a new airframe and was actually used during the war other than the Meteor Mk III, He162, Do335 and P-63, all of which are debatable to one degree or another.

[perdue3]

He 111

[lyric1]

He 111

It's overdue.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Those are getting scarce.

Yak-3 would probably top the list.  G.55, J2M3/J2M5 or Ki-44-II might also make the list.  I can't think of anything the Germans, Americans or Brits have that would be a new airframe and was actually used during the war other than the Meteor Mk III, He162, Do335 and P-63, all of which are debatable to one degree or another.

I still think that anything with the 410's top speed, armament, and lead-shot nose is going to be dangerous, if flown well. I suppose it depends on how you define competitive. I think the 410's fence-type dive braves and twin 12.7 defensive will add to its versatility - and is going to provide a nast surprise on occasion. A 1:1 monster it isn't, but I suspect it'll make a great Grosseschlag threat, especially en masse, and will be a serious BnZ threat to Mr. Spitty. Speaking of this last, I wonder what kind of roll rate it had?

I also reckon it'll be able to provide a decent parting shot as it exits the box...

[Karnak]

I still think that anything with the 410's top speed, armament, and lead-shot nose is going to be dangerous, if flown well. I suppose it depends on how you define competitive. I think the 410's fence-type dive braves and twin 12.7 defensive will add to its versatility - and is going to provide a nast surprise on occasion. A 1:1 monster it isn't, but I suspect it'll make a great Grosseschlag threat, especially en masse, and will be a serious BnZ threat to Mr. Spitty. Speaking of this last, I wonder what kind of roll rate it had?

I also reckon it'll be able to provide a decent parting shot as it exits the box...

When people talk about competitive in the LWA I don't think they mean something like the Mosquito Mk VI and the Mosquito Mk VI is likely substantially superior air-to-air to the Me410.

I think what they mean would bottom out at about Ki-84 levels of capability.

[W7LPNRICK]

If it's a little better in several ways than the Bf110G-2, I will be very pleased.

[FBDragon]

I'd love to see the FW190A8/R3.  This varient of the 190 series was the ultimate bomber interceptor. It's armorment comprised of 2 12.7 mg,2 20mm cannons, 2 30mm cannons, and 2 300mm gondolas.  What more could you ask for!!!!

[skorpion]

I'd love to see the FW190A8/R3.  This varient of the 190 series was the ultimate bomber interceptor. It's armorment comprised of 2 12.7 mg,2 20mm cannons, 2 30mm cannons, and 2 300mm gondolas.  What more could you ask for!!!!

300mm guns on a plane?

does anyone find that kind of impossible?


but hey, if its another buff hunter ill take it!

[Karnak]

I'd love to see the FW190A8/R3.  This varient of the 190 series was the ultimate bomber interceptor. It's armorment comprised of 2 12.7 mg,2 20mm cannons, 2 30mm cannons, and 2 300mm gondolas.  What more could you ask for!!!!

Isn't that more of asking for an additional loadout option for the Fw190A-8 and less asking for a new plane?

[Brooke]

From a scenario perspective (generally picking a country's highest-production aircraft not already in the game), the best planes to add would be as follows.

He 111  (Important for Battle of Britain)
Yak 1 (For Eastern Front)
D4Y (Most-produced Japanese dive bomber, taking over for early-war D3A)
B6N (Most-produced Japanese torpedo bomber, taking over for the early-war B5N)
Pe-2 (Most-produced Soviet attack plane other than Il-2, for Eastern Front)
Ki-43
TBD (not as highly produced as TBM, but important for Battle of Coral Sea)

Aircraft production in WWII

---- US ----

For the US, here are the production fighters, with numbers produced listed (from America's Hundred Thousand):

P-47, 15683
P-51, 15486
P-40, 13143
F6F, 12275
F4U, 11514
P-38, 10037
P-39, 9529
F4F/FM, 7905

For bombers (from https://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/AAFaircraft.htm and others):

B-24, 18190
B-17, 12692
B-25, 9186
A-20, 7385
B-26, 5157

TBM, 9837
SB2C, 7140 <--- not yet in AH
SBD, 5936

---- JAPAN ----

IJN aircraft from http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/ijnaf.htm and from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Japan%2C_World_War_II

A6M Zero, 10449
Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar), 5919
Ki-84 Hayate (Frank), 3449
Ki-61 Hien (Tony), 3159
Ki-45 Toryu (Nick), 1701
Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo), 1225
A5M (Claude), 1094
J2M Raiden (Jack), 476
N1K Shiden (George), 415

D4Y Suisei (Judy), 2038
D3A Aichi (Val), 1495
B6N Tenzan (Jill), 1268
B5N (Kate), 1149
B7A Ryusei (Grace), 114

G4M (Betty), 2446
Ki-21 (Sally), 2064
P1Y Ginga (Frances), 1098
G3M (Nell), 1048
Ki-67 Hiryu (Peggy), 767

---- RUSSIA ----

From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_CIS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Russia%2C_World_War_II
http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/363/9941_roosevelt.html

Yak-9, 16769
La-5, 9920
I-16, 9004
Yak-1, 8720
Yak-7, 6339
LaGG-3, 6258
La-7, 5753
P-39, 5007 (from US)
Yak-3, 4848
MiG-3, 3120
Hurricane, 2952 (from UK)
P-63, 2421 (from US)
Spitfire, 1331 (from UK)

Il-2, 29937

Pe-2, 11427
SB-2, 6656
Il-4, 5256
A-20, 2700 (from US)
Tu-2, 2527
DB-3, 1528

---- UK ----

From Wikipedia entries starting from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_RAF and using http://www.rafweb.org/aircraftA-D.htm to judge which are WWII aircraft.

Spitfire, 20351
Hurricane, 14000
Typhoon, 3330
Seafire, 2334
Tempest, 1702
Defiant, 1064

Mosquito, 7781
Beaufighter, 5928
Beaufort, 2080

Wellington, 11461
Lancaster, 7377
Halifax, 6176
Blenheim, 4422
Stirling, 2383
Whitley, 1737
Hampden, 1430

Martin Baltimore, 1575 (from US)
Douglas Boston
Brewster Buffalo
B-17
Douglas Havoc
Curtiss Kittyhawk
B-24
Martin Marauder
Martin Maryland
B-25
Curtis Mohawk
P-51
P-47
Vultee Vengence
Lockheed Ventura

---- Germany ----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_production_during_WW2, but using individual entries for aircraft production.

Bf 109, 35000
FW 190, 20010
Bf 110, 15000
Me 262, 1430

Ju 88, 15000
He 111, 7300
Do 217, 1366
He 177, 1146

Ju 87, 6000

[Brooke]

Many of the recent additions (B-25, G4M, P-39, Brewster, M4A3) were great additions for scenarios.  Thank you, HTC!

[Karnak]

Brooke,

Your N1K numbers were for the N1K2.  If you add in the numbers for the N1K1-J you end up at about 1400 for the N1K series.

You're also missing the Ju188. 

[titanic3]

Ju-87G would see much use in the MA.
Me-410 would be a nice perked version of a 110, lightly perked at 5.0
Ju-88G6 would also see use as a heavy fighter/jabo.
He-111 late war variant would be on par with the Ki-67 as a medium bomber, which still gets used from time to time.
Ju-188 could be another lightly perked bomber, perhaps 15.0 for each, 45.0 for a formation.
Me-262-A2 with 24x R4Ms rockets would definately be an instant favorite of mine despite losing 2x Mk108s.

These are all German planes that IMO, would definately see extensive use in the MA. Ju-87G has guns just a bit stronger than the Il-2's. The Me-410 would be a faster, more heavily armed 110G. Late war He-111s has the firepower and speed matching that of a Ki-67, which does get used in the MA as a decent town killer/points farming. The Ju-188 is basically a souped up Ju-88 in every category. The Ju-88G would definately have it's uses as a heavy fighter/town killer/de-acker, plus it would allow for some night scenarios. The Me-262-A2 would definately be fun to use and add a bit more versatility to it.

[Karnak]

Ju-87G would see much use in the MA.

It would see use, though its limited ammo capacity would keep that lower than you might think.

Me-410 would be a nice perked version of a 110, lightly perked at 5.0

In no way does the Me410's performance or capability warrant it being perked.

Ju-88G6 would also see use as a heavy fighter/jabo.

A late fighter version of the Ju88 would be nice.

He-111 late war variant would be on par with the Ki-67 as a medium bomber, which still gets used from time to time.

There is no He111 on par with the Ki-67.  Other than the Japanese Army's absurdly low bombload requirement the Ki-67 is far superior to the He111. The He111 got slower and slower as the war went on and they added more and more weight.  It was ~80mph slower than the Ki-67 at the end.  The best version of the He111 we could get would be a Battle of Britain era He111 for scenarios.  No He111 ever came close the the Ki-67's speed and I am curious where you got the idea that it did?

Ju-188 could be another lightly perked bomber, perhaps 15.0 for each, 45.0 for a formation.

The Ju188A is in no way worthy of being perked.  It would be about as survivable, perhaps a bit less, than the Ki-67 but would carry more bombs.  

Me-262-A2 with 24x R4Ms rockets would definately be an instant favorite of mine despite losing 2x Mk108s.

I believe you are conflating two different Me262s.  The version with only two 30mm cannons was a jabo that also carried two 250kg (500kg?) bombs.  The version that carried the R4M was just a slight change on the one we have in AH already and it retained the four 30mm cannons.