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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #60 on: September 14, 2011, 12:56:23 PM »
I can give you one, rad hits on a 190d9 its a little known fact the plane was a giant radiator any ping anywhere and the water leaks out in about 60 seconds or so, the last of the water will always leak through the pilots ears in the form of steam.

One of the best kept secrets of the war I'd say.
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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2011, 01:32:54 PM »
I don't think it can be its trademark if I have flown it for years and never noticed it.

Ki-84 trademarks in AH:

Potent vertical maneuvers.
Superflaps at low speeds.
Fast firing cannons.
Short duration WEP with fast recharge.
Control surfaces that are vulnerable to destruction by overspeeding.
Crippled maneuverability when using Combat Trim.

I use the KI extensively/exclusively ....I also fly with combat trim on.....does not stop me from whippin on spits...or any plane for that matter.....hell I was called a cheater recently because I out flew two brews on the deck in a slow TnB fight.......so if it is crippling it aint very much and not worth the hassle of manual trimming....I just don't see it though.

everything else I agree with.

Found that out in the DA earlier when i went over 400mph. First the rudder came off, then the ailerons  :uhoh

you can go a lot faster then 400 mph in the KI....pieces start coming off at 480(if my memory serves me correctly)...and the elevators are what comes off first every time..... :old:

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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #62 on: September 14, 2011, 02:24:59 PM »
ink,

That combat trim adversely affects the Ki-84's maneuverability at speed is not up for debate.  That you kill with it anyways is all you, but you are still holding yourself back by using it in some situations.  Try pulling out of a 400+mph dive with combat trim enabled and with it disabled, the difference is very noticeable.
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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #63 on: September 14, 2011, 02:48:17 PM »
I am also a big Hayate fan & I've been researching this for a long time, inconclusively I have to say. I got the idea from somewhere that the look-up table for the combat trim was changed for one of the releases? An old time player (Prono) was asking me recently and I told him I usually fly with CT enabled too, I do trim out of a dive when needed, but straight back to CT when I've recovered. At high speed I thought the stiffness of the controls was supposed to model heavy control surfaces?

I have never found a satisfactory explanation for the randomly detaching control surfaces.
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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #64 on: September 14, 2011, 02:56:26 PM »
ink,

That combat trim adversely affects the Ki-84's maneuverability at speed is not up for debate.  That you kill with it anyways is all you, but you are still holding yourself back by using it in some situations.  Try pulling out of a 400+mph dive with combat trim enabled and with it disabled, the difference is very noticeable.

I will check it out, I definitely can pull out of a dive at that speed plus(given enough room), but I do have my trim on my stick just for that purpose.

I wont say it does not effect it, I have never flown regularly with it off, I am saying its really not to the point that it matters.....but again I have not tested it.....

I feel the KI is in the top 3 fighting planes in the hanger if not, the top...I absolutely love it.

 what you are saying is that I will notice a difference in its maneuverability if I turn off combat trim......for the better......

I get accused of cheating a lot as it is, haha if I can get even more out of the KI.......oh the gnashing of teeth will be sweet music to my ears :t

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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #65 on: September 14, 2011, 04:25:56 PM »
With the trim tab in the middle and at 400mph you can easily pull a blackout (6 Gs) without combat trim.  You can't do that with combat trim on.
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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2011, 11:58:57 PM »
Will also do some experiments. Thanks. I'm more interested if there is a difference at lower speeds. We should exchange notes Ink  :rock
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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2011, 01:17:40 AM »
Will also do some experiments. Thanks. I'm more interested if there is a difference at lower speeds. We should exchange notes Ink  :rock

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Ive gotten 1,909 kills in her,  in the last 6 months :devil  ( I don't think I will see a major difference) but sometimes you just need that extra bit of umpfh...so ya im gonna try it for a while.

 we should go to DA have a KI fest :joystick: 

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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #68 on: September 17, 2011, 08:56:10 PM »
So the Ki-84's "trademark" is a flaw in how you land it?

Roger.


I ran into a tree with my Ki-84 once, and it blew up. Also when I collide with some one, I usually loose parts. That's its trademark when I fly it.  :D

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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2011, 02:34:52 AM »
we should go to DA have a KI fest :joystick: 

Yes, that might be interesting. But I never see you online. What timezone are you in?

I get pilot wounds very easily in a Hayate. I think this is an AH Ki-84 Trademark  :cry
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« Reply #70 on: September 18, 2011, 01:14:41 PM »
Yes, that might be interesting. But I never see you online. What timezone are you in?

I get pilot wounds very easily in a Hayate. I think this is an AH Ki-84 Trademark  :cry

im eastern time zone, but I am on all different times, but haven't flown much lately skinning planes has really taken over all my free time, its becoming quite a passion.

and yes PW happen a lot to me also

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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #71 on: September 18, 2011, 01:44:00 PM »
PW's happen alot in japaneese planes because they dont know what "armor" is.

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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #72 on: September 18, 2011, 02:17:43 PM »
Sounds like a generalisation to me.

Rgr Ink, will catch you sometime. Long live the Hayate!  :salute
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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #73 on: September 18, 2011, 02:36:41 PM »
The g6 has a trademark. Im in it.
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Re: Plane's Trademark
« Reply #74 on: September 18, 2011, 03:01:07 PM »
The g6 has a trademark. Im in it.
whenever i flew past a G6 i clenched my buttcheeks and hoped that it wasnt you in it. :lol