New P-40F!!

[W7LPNRICK]

Beautiful aircraft & historically a very well known profile from war movies & photo's...too bad it's a pig. 

[perdue3]

As opposed to the 6 109's we have? Or maybe the 5 190's?
   

We have plenty of both. We need planes that will help events. Not sure what a P-40F does for them.

[Devil 505]

We have plenty of both. We need planes that will help events. Not sure what a P-40F does for them.

It saw a bulk of its use in North Africa. Not exactly filling a gap in the plane set, but worthy of inclusion as Afrika Corp fodder. 

[Guppy35]

We have plenty of both. We need planes that will help events. Not sure what a P-40F does for them.

It was the primary USAAF P40 variant in North Africa, Sicily and up into Italy being replaced by P47s in early 44.  That's a lot of event time.  Considering North Africa, Operation Husky in Sicily and up the boot of Italy through the Anzio time frame.

Now those scenarios can be done more accurately with the correct 40s for both the RAF and the USAAF

[Wmaker]

Well I suppose it's very easy to kick a dead horse, but my opinion is based on a 13+ year experience with that game, which in spite of what you have been led to believe... DID, like this game..... attempt to "get it right" with regards to flight models and was subjected to much scrutiny and debate in our forums just as I have witnessed on these forums.  To the victor goes the spoils and I suppose I should expect a certain amount of chest thumping and disdain for, and disrespect towards our dearly departed game, but I submit FA's failure had nothing to do subpar flight modelling and had everything to do with a failure to realize the value of advertising.

I suppose we could debate FA's flight modelling and research till the cows come home, but it still won't change the fact that you presented your opinion as fact when I have seen evidence to the contrary... albeit in a game that the illustrious WMaker deemed unworthy of any valued input.

I only endeavoured to offer up anecdotal evidence from another game which had both planes available (yes the Spit LF.Mk.V) to it's clientele and my observations regarding usage of both of those planes.   A head to head match-up between the two planes specs was NOT the intent.

I will say that I am unaware of the Luftwaffe issuing the same "do not engage" orders for any plane other than the feared Yak 3.

AFAIK, normal LF.V didn't have a cropped impeller and had MAP of +16lbs (AH Spit V used to have +16lbs boost) on the deck while the one with the cropped impeller had +18lbs. It actually makes quite a difference. Spit F.Mk.9 in AH does roughly 330mph at 2000ft while the LF.V with +18lbs boost did 334mph and this is for the non clipped version. With clipped wingtips it would be even faster (http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-V.html, the last dataset). It's weight is almost the same as the weight of Spit V in AH. It would also out climb Spit 9 in AH by roughly 1000ft/min (!!) at 3800ft's altitude. Currently, the usage of the Spit9 is more than twice the usage of Yak-9U. Yak-3's power loading, wingloading are very close to the Yak-9U and it is also a bit slower than the Yak-9U. In other words it doesn't offer any significant improvement over the Yak-9U while the Spit LF.V with cropped impeller would be a monster down low where it matters in AH.

The fact that the LF.V with cropped impeller would see more use in AH than YAk-3 is a no brainer. Would it be good for AH to add such a spit is another matter entirely.

[Guppy35]

Just a tad bit of performance difference between the FVb of 41 and the LFVb that was about in 43


Identical look and close on the production line serial numbers but engined for different work

[perdue3]

It was the primary USAAF P40 variant in North Africa, Sicily and up into Italy being replaced by P47s in early 44.  That's a lot of event time.  Considering North Africa, Operation Husky in Sicily and up the boot of Italy through the Anzio time frame.

Now those scenarios can be done more accurately with the correct 40s for both the RAF and the USAAF

Still doesnt do much. Nothing a P40E cant do.

[uptown]

Still doesnt do much. Nothing a P40E cant do.

That's yet to be seen. I think you'll be pleasantly surprized. Watch out Spitfires, there's a new kid on the block 

[MachFly]

That's yet to be seen. I think you'll be pleasantly surprized. Watch out Spitfires, there's a new kid on the block  

I know it's not in my sig anymore, but I feel the need to post it here...

"Now, if I had to make the choice of one fighter aircraft above all the others...it would be, without any doubt, the world's greatest propeller driven flying machine - the magnificent and immortal Spitfire."
Lt. Col. William R. Dunn
flew Spitfires, Hurricanes, P-51s, P-47s, and F-4s

 

[Guppy35]

Still doesnt do much. Nothing a P40E cant do.

You wouldn't fly either one anyway right?  At least this way you can shoot down the correct model

[uptown]

I know it's not in my sig anymore, but I feel the need to post it here...

"Now, if I had to make the choice of one fighter aircraft above all the others...it would be, without any doubt, the world's greatest propeller driven flying machine - the magnificent and immortal Spitfire."
Lt. Col. William R. Dunn
flew Spitfires, Hurricanes, P-51s, P-47s, and F-4s

 

you're good

[perdue3]

You wouldn't fly either one anyway right?  At least this way you can shoot down the correct model

You win. Sorry I spoke 

[LCADolby]

You win. Sorry I spoke 

classic

[Babalonian]

You wouldn't fly anything above 7k anyway right?  At least this way you can shoot down the correct model

Fixed. 

[Megalodon]

It was the primary USAAF P40 variant in North Africa, Sicily and up into Italy being replaced by P47s in early 44.  That's a lot of event time.  Considering North Africa, Operation Husky in Sicily and up the boot of Italy through the Anzio time frame.

Now those scenarios can be done more accurately with the correct 40s for both the RAF and the USAAF

I just don't know how they came up with the F <and not the L if they wanted a Merlin and a mid varient> over the K. Maybe we will still get the K.

The 1st 699 ..96 P40-F/CU & 603 P40F/1 ,more than half of the P-40F's made , were P40E's w/a Merlina and they called it an F.
At least all the L's had the extended fuselage