Question for HTC: New Fighter Poll

[Wiley]

Welp...

Definately sounds like a promising future for the AH Special Events! 

I'll take a guy who's willing to help over a nonexistent Ph. D in history any day.

Wiley.

[Wmaker]

Have you volunteered?  

It is actually not about someone volunteering or not. Setting up these events it is good to have some understanding of the actual war and the planes that fought in it considering that the majority of the events are based on real historic events.

The above is actually a no brainer, and considering that, the reaction in the last few posts was immensely entertaining. Especially considering that the "I don't know and I don't care - attitude" regards the history might not exactly be the best attitude to run such events.

[Wiley]

Especially considering that the "I don't know and I don't care - attitude" regards the history might not exactly be the best attitude to run such events.

The poll ingame for the vote on new planes contained a 'Don't know, don't care' option.  He was referring to his response to the poll, not the history stuff.  Reading comprehension FTW. 

Wiley.

[Wmaker]

The poll ingame for the vote on new planes contained a 'Don't know, don't care' option.  He was referring to his response to the poll, not the history stuff.  Reading comprehension FTW. 

"I'm not a big history buff. I don't know jack about all the different planes. I like to fly and fight."

...in this context my actual choise of words is irrelevant.

So indeed...

Reading comprehension FTW. 

[Vinkman]

I don't know how many hours it takes for Waffle or Superfly to produce the 3D shape of a new ride. I would hazard a guess it takes them up to a month for the basic exterior shape. This includes animating all the control surfaces and gear. This is enough to give a skinner like me something to skin. If it is an aircraft they then have to do the cockpit including animating all the controls. Later they have to do the damaged parts/bullet hole bits. Also there is the low level of detail 3D shapes and skins, these are low poly count versions of the shape that are viewed from further away.

The flight modelling/damage modelling and testing is I believe done by Pyro. I've no idea how long that takes.

It takes me about 3-4 weeks to skin a new ride, the same again for a cockpit. I've never worked out what that is in hours. I usually do 1-2 hours each morning before going to work plus whenever else i feel like it, so maybe 50 hours.

A bomber is a more complex shape and needs extra 3D, animation and skinning work for the gunners and bomb aimer's positions and bomb bay so it takes longer to do than a fighter. GVs now have no interior art to do so take much less time overall.

I missed your reply first time through. thanks for the info!    

[Wiley]

...in this context my actual choise of words is irrelevant.

No it's not.  You used the same words he did when referring to the other part.

Regardless, your elitism is duly noted.  People like you being around to dump on people who volunteer their time to help run the game we play really improves the situation.  

Wiley.

[Wmaker]

No it's not.  You used the same words he did when referring to the other part.

Regardless, your elitism is duly noted.  People like you being around to dump on people who volunteer their time to help run the game we play really improves the situation.  

I know this ain't headed anywhere but it is hardly about elitism. One really does not have to know much as long as he has a good attitude for the job.

[Vinkman]

I know this ain't headed anywhere but it is hardly about elitism. One really does not have to know much as long as he has a good attitude for the job.

The point is that a historical buff can send in a write up for a scenario. But it takes someone to set up the arena, send out e-mails, register participants, track scores, send out marketting e-mails etc...

Lots of work outside the "historical" part.  So to end on a positive note, maybe you could do the historical part and send it to Imadot, and he would do the work to turn it into a scenario. Then the future would look bright indeed. 

[Krusty]

WMaker has a point. It's well and good to have somebody that knows what to type, but overall the CMs have a lot more duties and responsibilities than just typing in server commands. You generally want ones that care about what they're doing. When people care about the subject of their work, the quality of work benefits.

[ImADot]

I know this ain't headed anywhere but it is hardly about elitism. One really does not have to know much as long as he has a good attitude for the job.

You will find I have a great attitude - and a growing understanding of how all the various arena settings work to give players what an event designer hopes to give them. I don't have to know the difference between a 109E and a 109F to set up the arena according to how someone who DOES know that difference wants it to be set up.  

The point is that a historical buff can send in a write up for a scenario. But it takes someone to set up the arena, send out e-mails, register participants, track scores, send out marketting e-mails etc...

Lots of work outside the "historical" part.  So to end on a positive note, maybe you could do the historical part and send it to Imadot, and he would do the work to turn it into a scenario. Then the future would look bright indeed.  

The event designer (Admin CM) does all the heavy-lifting to research and figure out how things should look in the arena for an event.
The host (Setup CM) does all the arena setup to make the arena play like the Admin CM envisioned.

Because I am admittedly not a history buff, nor do I have the time or resources to research all things WWII, I have volunteered to be a Setup CM for the FSO events. I know many people are deep into the details and are very involved with the history of WWII. The last thing I'd want to do is try to design something for these guys and do something stupid like match up LW German birds against EW Japanese birds.

Let's go   and  

 

[Wmaker]

One last point: There's a difference special events-wise weather the new fighter added is a Ki-43 or Meteor.

I'll just leave it at that...

[Krusty]

Dot, I hope no offense was taken from my comment. I was speaking in a general manner and not specifically picking on you.

[ImADot]

Dot, I hope no offense was taken from my comment. I was speaking in a general manner and not specifically picking on you.

Nope. I didn't even see your post until after mine was posted (I was distracted by actual work here at work while typing it ). Even if I did, I would not have.

[PFactorDave]

One last point: There's a difference special events-wise weather the new fighter added is a Ki-43 or Meteor.

I'll just leave it at that...

Amen to this.  The Ki43 would be heavily used in scenarios and FSO setups.  The Meteor will be useless for anything except some quasi fantasy setup. 

[999000]

..................PBY. I'd even settle for the Gliders the C47's towed  on D-day.... or where are those subs? These would all add something "NEW" to the game. Who really needs another fighter?
999000   <S>