Question for HTC: New Fighter Poll

[Greebo]

wow. . .epic fail thread this has become.

1) Meteor is a jet, and the only reason people want it is because its an allied jet.  This is the sentimentalist argument.

2) Meteor is inferior in terms of performance except maby the Hispanos. . .but honestly those 30mm are a big reason the 262 is so deadly.

3) Meteor was not really designed or used for air-combat or even ground attack.  It was made to stop v1 rockets.  Even if it did venture to the continent, those were rare.

4) We don't need more jets. (opinion)

5) There is a quite long list of other planes that should be added before the Meteor - a host of Russian bombers and attack aircraft, lots of early war planes from all the countries with the possible exception of the US, UK and GER.

- its disappointing that people want things like the 29 and the meteor when there are so many other things that would add so much more to the game.  But then again - see pt. 1.

1) The main reason most people want it is it is a jet, full stop. If it was a He 162 they would still want it. Come to think of it, I suspect you would too.

2) It will easily out turn the 262 as well, it has something like half the wing loading. It also has air brakes. Biggest weakness is the compressibility that caused it to snake from side to side at high speed.

3) The initial Meteor design was proposed in 1940 as a jet fighter, pure and simple. The prototypes were ordered in 1941 and flew in 43. The V-1 was designed in 1942. Or are you suggesting the British Air Ministry were clairvoyant?
 
4) Totally agree.

5) Totally agree.

Bring back the HTC dictatorship I say.

[Krusty]

See Rule #14

[Kazaa]

So, it's the final two? What planes are left?

[Krusty]

According to my squadmate, Beau/Meteor....


The fact the meteor is in the final 2 is just an indicator how fouled up the vote is. 

[B4Buster]

A sad day and a great indicator that the voting is heavily skewed or influenced by the uninformed.

There was a guy on bishland lobbying for the Meteor Friday night. When I informed him it would easily be run down by 262s, and easily caught by diving 51s and 47s, he said "LMAO....yea right"

[Krusty]

Greebo, I wouldn't necessarily want "the old dictatorship" back per se....

But I don't like this whole popular vote to get new rides in game when they ought not be. I wouldn't mind if HTC on their own terms came up with "X" planes they planned to work on next.... Let's say 6 or 8. That would be their "to-do" list. Then they have us vote on what they have already chosen as a good addition to the game, and we just set the order in which they work on that list....

That way we can still influence which one we want to see first, bu no more P-61s in votes, no more B-29s (blech), no more Meteors. Not until HTC says it's time for them.

Just a thought....

[coombz]

all these whiny elitist posts are the main reason I want the Meteor to get in

as someone very aptly put it earlier this week "it makes the experts so mad that their vote is worth just as much as every clueless noob"

[Kazaa]

I feel sorry for the people who like to fly German iron, it has been forever since one of their flying toys got updated or anther one added.

[Krusty]

You don't have to be elitist OR an expert to see that some clueless dolt 2-weeker who has no clue what is what and votes for a jet is going to skew the vote. Add enough of them in and you get a mob mentality.

To quote a line, "A person is smart. People are dumb." </MenInBlack>



P.S. Kazaa, I enjoy some German planes, but it's not even about nationality... The meteor has no real place historically or combat wise. Compared to (almost) ALL other planes on the list, they all were useful in many ways. The meteor does nothing other than cater to those that go "ZOMGZORS! A JET!" and wet themselves. (uh.... you .... didn't wet yourself, did you Kazaa? Okay, good! Just checking. )

[Bruv119]

before you guys get mis information

the in game poll says

don't care  /  yak3 / meteor / me410

[Kazaa]

You don't have to be elitist OR an expert to see that some clueless dolt 2-weeker who has no clue what is what and votes for a jet is going to skew the vote. Add enough of them in and you get a mob mentality.

To quote a line, "A person is smart. People are dumb." </MenInBlack>



P.S. Kazaa, I enjoy some German planes, but it's not even about nationality... The meteor has no real place historically or combat wise. Compared to (almost) ALL other planes on the list, they all were useful in many ways. The meteor does nothing other than cater to those that go "ZOMGZORS! A JET!" and wet themselves. (uh.... you .... didn't wet yourself, did you Kazaa? Okay, good! Just checking. )

When I heard that the Meteor was in the vote, I wet myself, but just a little.

[Lusche]

Greebo, I wouldn't necessarily want "the old dictatorship" back per se....

But I don't like this whole popular vote to get new rides in game when they ought not be. I wouldn't mind if HTC on their own terms came up with "X" planes they planned to work on next.... Let's say 6 or 8. That would be their "to-do" list. Then they have us vote on what they have already chosen as a good addition to the game, and we just set the order in which they work on that list....

That way we can still influence which one we want to see first, bu no more P-61s in votes, no more B-29s (blech), no more Meteors. Not until HTC says it's time for them.

Just a thought....

Every vote is a "popular" vote, in AH as well as in real life. 

And in some way, HTC has already stated that it might be about time for a Meteor because they put it on that very small list (just like they did with the B-29). The was no reason to them to do so if they wouldn't think of the Meteor as a good addition to the game.
Not that I would necessary agree with that

Oh, and by the way, there's a significant difference between the B-29 and the Meteor. The B-29 had seen a lot of combat (more than 30,000 sorties over Japan at a loss of about 370 planes), the Meteor basically none...

[Krusty]

before you guys get mis information

the in game poll says

don't care  /  yak3 / meteor / me410

Oh, THANK COD!

I can't check it myself, was going off something in the squad forum.

Sorry for the scare, all!

[Krusty]

Oh, and by the way, there's a significant difference between the B-29 and the Meteor. The B-29 had seen a lot of combat (more than 30,000 sorties over Japan at a loss of about 370 planes), the Meteor basically none...

Yes but surely you'd agree the first knee-jerk reaction is "OMG! UBER!! MUST HAVE!" right?

[oboe]

My estimation is that speed and firepower rule the day in popular votes, and that might favor the Meteor (for those who know what it is).

I wouldn't be opposed to implementing a weighted vote system - basically your vote counts as 'x' amount of votes based on the number of months your account has been active.   Two-weekers would get 1/2 vote.

I think any of the choices will be OK; nothing here will ruin the game (as many had feared about the B-29).