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BM P40 N
« on: October 30, 2011, 07:54:14 PM »
ok Gents I need your critique once again......this is a P40 from Australia....I see I missed the flags on the tail...... :rofl

http://www.p40warhawk.com/WW2_Era/Photos/MickGrinter/P-40_4/P-40_4.htm
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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 08:15:41 PM »
Very nice Ink.  :aok
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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 08:26:00 PM »
woah, tone down the weathering a bit on the middle of the fus. other than that, :O wow.

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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 08:38:17 PM »
I did notice though that there are 2 guns per wing but 3 smoke trails.
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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 08:55:04 PM »
I noticed the smoke trails as well. I also think there should be more "blueing" around and behind the exhaust, but other than that I think it looks pretty good

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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 08:57:11 PM »
NICE!  But do NOT wait too long to get it done and get it in!!!  Supposedly, Skuzzy has sent some "accepted" emails which means he is in the process of approving and adding them to AH. 

Very nice skin for the P40!!!!   :aok
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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 09:02:27 PM »
ya I was wondering about the 2 guns....can you choose a 3 gun load out?


thanx guys.

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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 11:05:09 PM »
The "ribs" on the control surfaces are far too prominent. They would also be a silver doped shade of paint, instead of metal (assuming they're fabric covered, which I think is correct off the top of my head).

I also think you need to redo the blue. It looks more like a light blue spraying of paint that is wearing away. It doesn't convey "bare metal" to me. This is one area VERY hard to get right, and it took me several skins to get to where I felt I was happy with a bare metal result.

Kev did a nice comparison graphics showing some of the steps he used to build the BMF layers up. Does anbody have the link for that one? It could be useful here. Generally speaking you have to bake on the reflection map. You have to paint the metal as if it's reflecting different things along the different curves of the fuselage/wings. Some "bulging" or whatever term you prefer can also add a little pop to the individual panels themselves.


As an after thought, I'm not convinced by the port-side cowling drips, but the BMF to me would be the more important thing to work on.

Look at some of the previous BMF screenshots you showed. Add just a bit of that (maybe 10%), and it may help a lot.

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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 11:06:22 PM »
In the skin viewer there are attachements/options at the bottom right side. It is a combo box with rows showing hardpoints, pylons, gunpods, whatever "goodies" a plane has in the hangard.

You have to find the right one for the outboard guns, and highlight it. This will toggle it on (in the skin viewere) and allow your skin/screenshots to have all 6 guns.

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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 11:54:56 PM »
Thanx for tips Krusty :salute

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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 07:25:03 AM »
Love the bare metal treatment.   :aok
 
Not so sure about the grease/oil stain eminating from the prop hub - I don't think a greae trail would stay so concentrated and dark, or have such a wandering trail under the influence of the propwash.    I think it would thin out/spread out more quickly than that...


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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 08:28:37 AM »
Its just the usual worthless piece of...







looks real nice. Cant wait for your 109 skin tho  : )
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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 09:34:19 AM »
I love the top side bare metal, but should there be blue on the underside?  I would have thought it would be either green or brown to represent the world below that it was reflecting. Really nice though  :aok
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Re: BM P40 N
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 09:54:43 AM »
ink,

Tone down some of the oil stains, grease and grime a little bit. Your bare metal finish looks too "white" to me. Could just be my computer though. I recommend putting in more silver/gray colors to give a more metal look. The current bare metal finish gives me the impression that they took this P40 and scraped a large bar of soap over the whole plane. Panel lines and rivet detail looks good. I would also reduce the weathering over the spinner, some. Spinners don't normally show heavy weathering unless there is a lot of paint chipping off of it. Check the position of the roundels on the top sides of the wings. They appear to be too far forward to the leading edge of the wings. Is the paint on the engine supposed to be matte black or olive drab? Looks black to me. May want to verify which paint it is.

If you can maintain the same balance of panel line and rivet opacity, and make your BMF look more metal/silver/gray, then you have it right.

Best of luck.
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