Lames

[Shuffler]

If anything in this game upsets you, you need to take a break.

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I had an individual in mw last night who got really peeved and called me everything he could almost spell.

Seems I upped at a blinking base to find what it was and he was way up overhead in lancs. I proceeded to climb up to him... intercepting at about 27k. I was almost out of fuel by that time and way off from home. I ended up just killing 2. One thing I was called was a XXX XXX Dweeb for climbing that high to kill buffs. 

[StokesAk]

I realized this a long time ago, I try to lead by example; sometimes ill end up on the other side of the equation and that is my fault. We must understand that if you keep doing something gamey or wrong, it eventually be accepted as the norm.  

[68ZooM]

simple... you bail from any plane you stay in your Chute till  #1 you float down to the ground or #2 you get killed in your Chute as your floating down from 20k plus, why get a reward for bailing by going right to the tower and out of harms way.  its lame, just like a whole mission 25+ planes bailing because their goons got killed ( not going to mention that squad but most know who did that lol )

[Debrody]

its not about bomb n bailing
its about st00pid lamers ruining everyone elses fun.

[Wiley]

simple... you bail from any plane you stay in your Chute till  #1 you float down to the ground or #2 you get killed in your Chute as your floating down from 20k plus, why get a reward for bailing by going right to the tower and out of harms way.  its lame, just like a whole mission 25+ planes bailing because their goons got killed ( not going to mention that squad but most know who did that lol )

...again, don't bail, auger.  Problem solved.

There is no effective solution that doesn't unfairly punish people who are trying to play 'right'.

its not about bomb n bailing
its about st00pid lamers ruining everyone elses fun.

Yup.  You can't code out human nature.

Wiley.

[Ardy123]

The fundamental problem is that the game fails to associate risk with reward.

When people achieve the 'reward' without taking the risk is when most of us call their behavior 'lame'. In the past (~2ish years ago, and this maybe with rose colored glasses), the community attempted to keep itself inline by bashing them on 200 for their behavior as others would chime in. Those days are gone for the most part as people now people tend to support poor sportsmanship. This has caused the precipitous departure of long time players as well, just read 'Jo1chims' post as his post/feelings are not unique.

Some simple changes could reduce the incentive to engage in 'lame' behavior...

1) eliminate the "name in lights" message
2) eliminate individual score.

[grizz441]

Some simple changes could reduce the incentive to engage in 'lame' behavior...

1) eliminate the "name in lights" message
2) eliminate individual score.

Wouldn't this exacerbate the bomb and bail/suicide attack problem?  There would be even less incentive to return to base.

[Bruv119]

I don't think the scoring system is the problem ardy. 

People just want the easiest/quickest path to self gratification.   Getting your kills in any which way you can.   These people don't care about HO, ramming you, they just want to get a kill.   Rather than take the time to put together some sort of arsenal of ACM skill sets, it is much easier to just up the Spit 16 and crutch your way through.

Nothing can be done about this unless they seek a path of enlightenment and try to improve through strength of character.

[Ardy123]

Wouldn't this exacerbate the bomb and bail/suicide attack problem?  There would be even less incentive to return to base.

I don't think it would have an effect on the bomb/bail strategy, as the incentive structure we have today doesn't stop them either.

EDIT: realize spell checker misshap

[Karnak]

"Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense"

I prefer to fight it out if attacked.  I prefer to land what I took into the air because I kinda RP the whole thing a bit.

Who cares if I am in a G4M1 and under attack by a P-47?  I might be able to do it!  (I didn't, but he got to go home with oil all over his airplane.)

[LCADolby]

Nothing can be done about this unless they seek a path of enlightenment and try to improve through strength of character.

You sound like Midway.... Wait What!? 

[Noir]

maybe some kind of limiter that prevent people from wasting the country ressources?

the ressource would reload for each player over time, and low eny equipment would hurt your ressource bar way more. With some tuning it could prevent a player to up 3 heacy lancasters and have troops in the same 30mins, allowing all kinds of strategies.

high eny rides would be free. Noobs wouls get a larger bar for a couple months so they can waste a few P51's a day....I like my idea

[Ardy123]

You sound like Midway.... Wait What!? 

bruv didn't say play 300 hours in a tour....

[grizz441]

maybe some kind of limiter that prevent people from wasting the country ressources?

the ressource would reload for each player over time, and low eny equipment would hurt your ressource bar way more. With some tuning it could prevent a player to up 3 heacy lancasters and have troops in the same 30mins, allowing all kinds of strategies.

high eny rides would be free. Noobs wouls get a larger bar for a couple months so they can waste a few P51's a day....I like my idea

It's certainly a start in the right direction.

[Ardy123]

maybe some kind of limiter that prevent people from wasting the country ressources?

the ressource would reload for each player over time, and low eny equipment would hurt your ressource bar way more. With some tuning it could prevent a player to up 3 heacy lancasters and have troops in the same 30mins, allowing all kinds of strategies.

high eny rides would be free. Noobs wouls get a larger bar for a couple months so they can waste a few P51's a day....I like my idea

this could also result in people taking less risk in their behavior, encouraging the 'hide in a larger horde' mentality.