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Offline Karnak

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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #165 on: December 31, 2011, 03:00:18 PM »
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By the end of the war, Lanks and B29s were bombing by radar image of the ground.. USN and RN had Airborne Radar effective enough to detect snorkels.. Just recently I learned that even the Japanese had an airborne surface search radar set.. By the time it was ready for use by IJN flying boats, it no longer mattered.. Wanna find the American Fleet??? There it is, right there, they ain't hidin no more, lol!
I have seen many photos of Japanese aircraft with ASV systems.
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #166 on: December 31, 2011, 04:16:08 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on December 31, 2011, 03:00:18 PM
I have seen many photos of Japanese aircraft with ASV systems.

They were very primitive and unreliable though as the Japanese didn't put too much stock in radar development until after 1943 and then it was too late for them.  They did have a semi-successful network of search radars in the SW area of the Pacific until we developed the means to detect the frequency of the signals.  Specially equipped Black Cats would fly "Ferret" missions to home in on the signals and once they pin pointed the general area would call in the cavalry to take out the target.

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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #167 on: December 31, 2011, 05:14:34 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on December 29, 2011, 09:19:03 PM
The PBY was most definitely not an army close cooperation aircraft capable of short landings and take offs in rough terrain.
well u get my point, it would be like the navy equivelent of the storch, like instead of STOL capabilities, it would have amphibious abilities.
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #168 on: December 31, 2011, 05:46:19 PM »
it would be good for capturing ports
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #169 on: December 31, 2011, 05:57:44 PM »
Quote from: SpencAce on December 31, 2011, 05:46:19 PM
it would be good for capturing ports
In what way would it be good for that?  It cannot drop paratroopers.
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #170 on: December 31, 2011, 06:00:27 PM »
because if it has the same gv spoting ability as the storch, then it could be used to coordinate a gv assualt, seeing as how that is the only thing that can be used to defend a port
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #171 on: December 31, 2011, 06:06:15 PM »
Quote from: SpencAce on December 31, 2011, 06:00:27 PM
because if it has the same gv spoting ability as the storch, then it could be used to coordinate a gv assualt, seeing as how that is the only thing that can be used to defend a port

You can't simply take an aircraft and "re-design it" to meet your expectations, a PBY was not used or even in prototype to spot ground vehicles.
That would be like saying "well this <insert aircraft here> COULD of been designed to <insert mission>.

Pby's were used in a variety of waves, and as Moriarty so rightously said "It was not used to spot ground vehicles in world war 2 no matter how positive you think".
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #172 on: December 31, 2011, 06:10:02 PM »
yes, i know that, but u would have to change its role just a little bit to make it more popular in the game, its all about making it more fun to use.
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #173 on: December 31, 2011, 06:13:02 PM »
Quote from: SpencAce on December 31, 2011, 06:10:02 PM
yes, i know that, but u would have to change its role just a little bit to make it more popular in the game, its all about making it more fun to use.
Or you could just acknowledge that it would be a waste of resources to add to the game at this time and move on with things instead of obsessing over how to fite a square peg into a round hole.
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #174 on: December 31, 2011, 06:14:35 PM »
but it would be such a fun plane to fly that i am sure that it would catch on in no time, cause i know that is gonna happen with the storch
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #175 on: December 31, 2011, 06:21:20 PM »
Quote from: SpencAce on December 31, 2011, 06:14:35 PM
but it would be such a fun plane to fly that i am sure that it would catch on in no time, cause i know that is gonna happen with the storch
The Storch will have a role, one that was not made up for it, and even so may not used much.

It was also a lot less work for HTC to produce.
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #176 on: December 31, 2011, 06:25:24 PM »
Quote from: Butcher on December 31, 2011, 06:06:15 PM
Pby's were used in a variety of waves, and as Moriarty so rightously said "It was not used to spot ground vehicles in world war 2 no matter how positive you think".
Beg to differ, the New Britian Campaign utilized Catalina's extensively to recon enemy Encampments, Supply Routes, and Troop Movement which INCLUDED Japanese TANKS and Artillary. Not sure, but I THINK there were some improvised BOMBING MISSIONS by Cats in that campaign.
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #177 on: December 31, 2011, 06:33:49 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on December 31, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
The Storch will have a role, one that was not made up for it, and even so may not used much.

It was also a lot less work for HTC to produce.

The storch will be used, and its almost a requirement once added in game. Aircrafts that carry bombs do not have ground icons beyond 600yds from what I seen in the Beta, which means if you carry ords you almost require relying on a storch for information...... Which makes them a high profiled target for enemy aircraft, as well as wirblwinds.

I am still not sure how aircraft with ords are going to deal with ground vehicles, Storch's will NOT be flying around ground vehicles, let alone close enough to drop smoke. A few 7.9mm hits in a Panzer is enough to down a storch, which I believe storch's will be best used to guide friendly GV's to the enemy.

Its a good class never the less to add to the game, if not, how come so many people bring supplies to tankers? there is no perks involved.

PBY might have its spot some day, not sure for what, but its Aces high - anythings possible.
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #178 on: January 04, 2012, 05:12:54 PM »
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Re: PBY5-A
« Reply #179 on: April 08, 2013, 01:36:45 AM »
I still think this old beaten bird should be given a chance one day!
Still as always +1
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