2 quick wishes for the 88 in the upcoming version

[Lusche]

1. Please add 3 Flak to the towns, which are the prime target of high altitude milkruns for score. This would add some remote risk of being shot down.
2. Please consider displaying barrel elevation (and maybe azimuth as well), which may help shooting at very long range aerial targets. (see 1). Considering the amount of complex and precise sighting equipment those guns really had, it shouldn't be totally unreasonable

thank you

[MAINER]

+1

[Lusche]

After having done a few tests, and alot more of calculations, I really want to put the emphasis on #2. Pretty please give us gun elevation readout on the screen. 

[Tilt]

Are there any fields less than 12k apart?

Supposing (after some off line testing) you spawn to your 88mm take a line off some piece of terrain architecture, set your angle of inclination and fuse  and then have a cup of coffee with something holding the f key down peppering the enemy field with "fragmentation shells" at a few feet above ground level.

[Lusche]

Are there any fields less than 12k apart?

Supposing (after some off line testing) you spawn to your 88mm take a line off some piece of terrain architecture, set your angle of inclination and fuse  and then have a cup of coffee with something holding the f key down peppering the enemy field with "fragmentation shells" at a few feet above ground level.

12K yards are only ~7 miles (less than 1/3rd of a sector) and it would require a highly ballistic arc, extending the true distance traveled by the shell way past that limit.
If you shoot a 88 round  set at 12k at about 60°, you will see it hasn't dropped that much before it bursts.

[Karnak]

1. Please add 3 Flak to the towns, which are the prime target of high altitude milkruns for score. This would add some remote risk of being shot down.
2. Please consider displaying barrel elevation (and maybe azimuth as well), which may help shooting at very long range aerial targets. (see 1). Considering the amount of complex and precise sighting equipment those guns really had, it shouldn't be totally unreasonable

thank you

Despite your feeble attempt to arm yourselves, the Imperial Japanese Navy's war with small, picturesque French towns shall not abate.

(I have no idea why the IJN and IJA hate French villages, but the game sure rewards their hate with perk points.)

[Lusche]

Despite your feeble attempt to arm yourselves, the Imperial Japanese Navy's war with small, picturesque French towns shall not abate.

  

[MK-84]

I totally agree with #2

That was I can figure out where to aim, rather then shooting blind. 

[alpini13]

  If it has  an AP,HE and AA ammo option...would like to see the timed fuse adjust and display like the panther tank site in which you adjust the  explosion distance using the C and V  keys. it would keep it inline with current learning curves for GV's.... the 88  had a seperate large range finder if remeber correct....anyone have a pic of the site picture?

[Lusche]

 If it has  an AP,HE and AA ammo option...would like to see the timed fuse adjust and display like the panther tank site in which you adjust the  explosion distance using the C and V  keys. it would keep it inline with current learning curves for GV's.... the 88  had a seperate large range finder if remeber correct....anyone have a pic of the site picture?

In it's traditional flak role, the 88's were usual supplied with firing data from a central firing control unit, which in turn relied mostly on radar data. When using optical fire control, they used instruments like this:

[Tilt]

I cant (probabaly thru limited grey matter) see how #2 would  be of use re incoming bombers. As it is we have range (as set) and we have distance to target (via icon).

At present we have to lead the target  with the sight and adjust range from icon feedback.

Lead is then a function of Altitude (to take account of any ballistic arc) and ac speed and relative direction.

Actually the feed back I would like is the Lead setting. Ideally I put the sight on the bomber and pan (the pan direction sets the relative lead  direction) I then continually dial in range  (from the icon distance) and adjust the lead setting  from my observations of the shell bursts.

This way I inch my shell bursts (via range and lead adjustment) toward the target and my skill is being able to do this quickly enough to actually catch it up.

[Lusche]

Of course I had also ideas on 'better', more elaborate ways, but imho adding an elevation display on screen would be very easy and quick to implement, even before the next version comes out.

I would use it, just to give one example, to set a barrage at a specific altitude over the town. It would also help me in getting a better feel/judgement for the right additional elevation required to compensate for the drop, as well as running various tests and computing tables 

[Tilt]

Yes the barrage is interesting but not something than can be executed from just 1 or even 2 co-operating 88's in game.

The bomber would just fly under it or over it or he could fly around it and as soon as you move it you are back to tracking the target again.

I think any further game enhancement should assist target tracking and I do not see how inclination angle is a direct route to that when the altitude is really unkown.

[Karnak]

Yes the barrage is interesting but not something than can be executed from just 1 or even 2 co-operating 88's in game.

The bomber would just fly under it or over it or he could fly around it and as soon as you move it you are back to tracking the target again.

I think any further game enhancement should assist target tracking and I do not see how inclination angle is a direct route to that when the altitude is really unkown.

Any dodging on the part of the bomber will be tantamount to abandoning the bomb run.

[Lusche]

The bomber would just fly under it or over it or he could fly around it and as soon as you move it you are back to tracking the target again.

And botching his approach, which I would consider being a success  


No, I'm not saying it's the best solution, or "all that I need" or that I can't imaging something better.     ( Actually I'm having an idea for 'realistic' (use that with caution) Flak gun batteries in the future.. especially on the Flak towers in the City   )
The focus is on quick and simple.

Also It would help me a lot in retaining some orientation when I'm in the gun.