I was not including the Iraqi people, or the Kurdish, people. I was referring to the international forces that has sent soldiers,to the was zone. You are correct, and I should have, the Iraqi people have lost more than, any other county in this war, and even before it. And to Ink, the number of people lost is not a factor in a world war, the number of countries involved, and effected, is what make a world war, and with all the countries involved, we probably have lost 100,000 people. I know that in 05 the insurgents rolled thru Mosul and killed 30,000 Christians that were in that city alone. So yes even if you want to count numbers I would consider this a world war. I can count at least 8 counties that I have interaction with in the 4 and a half years that I was in the country of Iraq.