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Offline The Fugitive

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My only wish...
« on: December 19, 2011, 06:20:25 PM »
...is that players were forced to play as the game was intended.

OK first off I personally don't know how the "game was intended to be played" but by using some logic I can come to some conclusions.

Bombers are meant to bomb. I don't think dive bombing in heavy bombers was ever intended.

Fighters are meant to fight. A HO is not a fight, its a joust, aurgering your plane while dive bombing, or suiciding your fighter to take down the ack I don't think were intended.

GVs are meant to fight and crush building. I don't think spawn camping was intended.

Everyone takes shortcuts these days. In stead of using any kind of skill, they look for the quickest and easiest way to do the same thing saving them selves the trouble of "learning" any skills.

I would like to see intended game play rewarded, and non-intended game play not.

You want to fly in a horde and steam roll bases you get no credit for points or perks, and the base is returned after 5 minutes. This way the horde can work ove the same two bases all night, have all the fun they want, and not bother anyone else. On the other hand If you run a capture mission with 20 players or less and capture the base it stays captured until another force of 20 or less wins it.

Heavy bombers dropping under 15k their bombs just disappear, medium and light bombers the same under 5k. Bailing from a undamaged buff negates all points and damages. On the other hand if you stick it out and fight against the fighters instead of bail you get double the points and perks, land them and you can double them again.

Its sad to see the game turn into nothing but a bunch of people who aurger perfectly good aircraft, bail out of fights, avoid any conflict, dive bomb GV in Lancs. Whats the point of playing a game if your not here to use the equipment as it was intended to be use when it was designed? It's like using a computer as a boat anchor, whats the point?

Not that my wish will ever come true, but it would be nice to have a game that you fought against people from all over the world in WWII type equipment. Fought them in the air, on the ground, for base after base. Instead I guess I'll have to settle for the horde fests. Fly my pony to catch the runners, and if I must join with the horde, fly only cannon planes so I don't get so many assists.

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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 06:29:38 PM »
Waiting for all the "my 15 dollars..." comments.

But if this did happen, i might just get back in.

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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2011, 06:56:50 PM »
Fugitive me and bone was talking about some of that earlier, I agree with you but what can you do about it.  Fix for spn camp is to put 4 or 5 spn points for every spn.  Fighters you can't make fight, I see so many Lgay's today. As far as planes only being able to see the gv's 600 out and in I think is a big step in the right direction. 
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2011, 07:54:12 PM »
Fugitive me and bone was talking about some of that earlier, I agree with you but what can you do about it.  Fix for spn camp is to put 4 or 5 spn points for every spn.  Fighters you can't make fight, I see so many Lgay's today. As far as planes only being able to see the gv's 600 out and in I think is a big step in the right direction. 

I think thats the biggest thing that bothers me is that you "have" to try and think of things like this. I think if people were shown a different way to play they would. The things they are doing with the GVs for this next release look good. If it makes more GV battles that have GVs as the main element instead of A20's and dive bombing Lancs then yes it is a step in the right direction.

I think another thing that would be cool is a list of "daily missions" pre-planned mission with certain objectives in them. You fill the mission and run it when you can. If that means that you have to capture a couple bases to get the launch base first then do it. Completion of the mission gives perks to those in the mission....and still alive.

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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2011, 08:23:33 PM »
I can understand where you are coming from, but your rules would have blocked some actual operations in WWII.
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 08:31:12 PM »
...is that players were forced to play as the game was intended.

OK first off I personally don't know how the "game was intended to be played" but by using some logic I can come to some conclusions.

Bombers are meant to bomb. I don't think dive bombing in heavy bombers was ever intended.

Fighters are meant to fight. A HO is not a fight, its a joust, aurgering your plane while dive bombing, or suiciding your fighter to take down the ack I don't think were intended. (fighters were meant to kill. not dance onto someones six out of sportsmanship)

GVs are meant to fight and crush building. I don't think spawn camping was intended.

Everyone takes shortcuts these days. In stead of using any kind of skill, they look for the quickest and easiest way to do the same thing saving them selves the trouble of "learning" any skills.

I would like to see intended game play rewarded, and non-intended game play not.

You want to fly in a horde and steam roll bases you get no credit for points or perks, and the base is returned after 5 minutes. This way the horde can work ove the same two bases all night, have all the fun they want, and not bother anyone else. On the other hand If you run a capture mission with 20 players or less and capture the base it stays captured until another force of 20 or less wins it.

Heavy bombers dropping under 15k their bombs just disappear, medium and light bombers the same under 5k. Bailing from a undamaged buff negates all points and damages. On the other hand if you stick it out and fight against the fighters instead of bail you get double the points and perks, land them and you can double them again.

Its sad to see the game turn into nothing but a bunch of people who aurger perfectly good aircraft, bail out of fights, avoid any conflict, dive bomb GV in Lancs. Whats the point of playing a game if your not here to use the equipment as it was intended to be use when it was designed? It's like using a computer as a boat anchor, whats the point? points to have fun

Not that my wish will ever come true, but it would be nice to have a game that you fought against people from all over the world in WWII type equipment. Fought them in the air, on the ground, for base after base. Instead I guess I'll have to settle for the horde fests. Fly my pony to catch the runners, and if I must join with the horde, fly only cannon planes so I don't get so many assists.
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 08:41:57 PM »
Sorry but umm no thanks -1
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 09:24:52 PM »
Sorry but umm no thanks -1

Why no thanks, can't handle a bit of a challenge? If your just after a "win the war" with out fighting for it buy the game "Risk", set up the pieces, then sweep all the opposing pieces off the board and replace them with your pieces, YOU WIN AGAIN! It seems that is all people want to do these days. Might as well make it all jets and A-bombs, bet we could reset the map 5 maybe 6 times a day!

BAR321, YES fighters were made to kill IN THE FRIKIN WAR !!! here they are toys to be used to play a game. And to me using 30-40 guy to roll a base isn't "fun" only half of them get to really participate, the other half get to drop their bombs on flaming wrecks of buildings. Had that same force split into two mission run at the same time not only would everyone have had a roll in the missions, they would have been challenged to accomplish that roll.

I can understand where you are coming from, but your rules would have blocked some actual operations in WWII.

Granted, but as this is a game and not real war there are a number of conssesions made all ready, what are a few more.

They only thrill these players know are the false "atta-boys" they get from the rest of the horde. Saturday a player got a bunch of "atta-boys" when he landed 6 kills in an A20. Everyone was so impressed...until they found out he was bombing a spawn camp. "woo-hoo!" To me it was a poor run, A20 carries 8 bombs doesn't it, dude sucks! hitting only 75% on vehicles that can't really return fire. :devil How much more of a thrill would have been had the same player rolled in with a tiger even and got away with 6 scalps while under fire at an enemy base, but of course we can't do that. Might lose our perked tank, might be counted as a kill against us, aim may be horrible and my hit% will drop. Ah but the glory should you pull it off!

I say make them play the game!

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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2011, 09:48:55 PM »
BAR321, YES fighters were made to kill IN THE FRIKIN WAR !!! here they are toys to be used to play a game. And to me using 30-40 guy to roll a base isn't "fun" only half of them get to really participate, the other half get to drop their bombs on flaming wrecks of buildings. Had that same force split into two mission run at the same time not only would everyone have had a roll in the missions, they would have been challenged to accomplish that roll.
well all i know is that you said they were made to fight i corrected your statement :P :lol :joystick: :bolt:
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 10:03:00 PM »
I get where you want to go. But I just see your means as .... a little extreme.

How the game is intended to be played is whatever you want to make of it if I had to answer that question(which I just did...). That's how I see the MA. A no hold barred, free for all in which there are no rules nor limitations to what can be done.

One thing about spawn camping....how about removing the big yellow arrows that point the spawn on the map. I mean.....right now it's like : THEY ARE HERE! Drive to arrow and wait. Anyway not that I care really. I GV about 15 minutes a year so....I dont really have an interest in this.

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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2011, 10:54:46 PM »
+1 fugitive. Some of the lamest things you can do in game. If someone bombs your tank, or porks your ords, or shuts down your FH, or does ANYTHING thats within the realm of what HTC was thinking of when they made the game, theres always something you c.an do to either counter it, fix it, or piss them off.

But by refusing to fight, not only do they deprive you of a good fight and some fun, but they deprive you of revenge as well
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2011, 12:24:31 AM »
I love hordes. The fun in that is beating everyone else there first to get some points but also be careful not to be the first to get holed by auto-ack
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2011, 01:30:45 AM »
Fugi,
If you go into the game expecting it to annoy you is it any wonder that you keep getting annoyed?
Funny how it's everyne else's fault that you don't seem to be enjoying it.
Funny how the majority of peple love the game and enjoy playing it their own way without worrying about how you are playing it, let alone dictating that you shuld have to play it like they do.

With respect, but little diplomacy, I would suggest to you to either quit the game or find a way of enjoying it without trying to change other people.
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2011, 02:19:22 AM »
...is that players were forced to play as the game was intended.

OK first off I personally don't know how the "game was intended to be played" but by using some logic I can come to some conclusions.

Bombers are meant to bomb. I don't think dive bombing in heavy bombers was ever intended.

Fighters are meant to fight. A HO is not a fight, its a joust, aurgering your plane while dive bombing, or suiciding your fighter to take down the ack I don't think were intended.

GVs are meant to fight and crush building. I don't think spawn camping was intended.

Everyone takes shortcuts these days. In stead of using any kind of skill, they look for the quickest and easiest way to do the same thing saving them selves the trouble of "learning" any skills.

I would like to see intended game play rewarded, and non-intended game play not.

You want to fly in a horde and steam roll bases you get no credit for points or perks, and the base is returned after 5 minutes. This way the horde can work ove the same two bases all night, have all the fun they want, and not bother anyone else. On the other hand If you run a capture mission with 20 players or less and capture the base it stays captured until another force of 20 or less wins it.

Heavy bombers dropping under 15k their bombs just disappear, medium and light bombers the same under 5k. Bailing from a undamaged buff negates all points and damages. On the other hand if you stick it out and fight against the fighters instead of bail you get double the points and perks, land them and you can double them again.

Its sad to see the game turn into nothing but a bunch of people who aurger perfectly good aircraft, bail out of fights, avoid any conflict, dive bomb GV in Lancs. Whats the point of playing a game if your not here to use the equipment as it was intended to be use when it was designed? It's like using a computer as a boat anchor, whats the point?

Not that my wish will ever come true, but it would be nice to have a game that you fought against people from all over the world in WWII type equipment. Fought them in the air, on the ground, for base after base. Instead I guess I'll have to settle for the horde fests. Fly my pony to catch the runners, and if I must join with the horde, fly only cannon planes so I don't get so many assists.

i would suggest the offline mode but there are hordes attacking every base. So maybe u should try the AvA arena.
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Re: My only wish...
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2011, 02:24:49 AM »
i would suggest the offline mode but there are hordes attacking every base. So maybe u should try the AvA arena.
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