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Offline Tupac

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2011, 05:40:04 PM »
You and I both know a guy in a Stearman isn't seeing a crosswind for the first time. Suggesting he "learned something" after ending up in the mud, while likely not untrue, that something being as trivial as applying crosswind correction or basic control of the airplane ain't it. Especially from the perspective of Tupac in his 172.

Or that his Facebook status had him proclaiming himself the "master of crosswind landings..."

Like I said. Perspective and cumulative eye rolls finally added up.

Not sorry.

Happy belated Festivus.

The "crosswind master" statement was in jest. I thought I conveyed that. Sometimes I have difficulty putting thoughts into text. Today I soloed a 210 with a 310hp engine in preparation for taking my neighbor to MD Anderson in Houston next month. (Her husband will be out of town, so I offered to fly her up there in the 210. She needs to be there at 8AM, otherwise I would take the skyhawk. My mom is coming so she can drive her to the hospital.) That thing is quite the beast. I by no means think I am the master of crosswind landings, or flying in general.

Anything proclaiming me the master/grand gypsy/king/ or anything of the like is most likely meant in jest by me, unless I finally get crowned prince of Nigeria like the emails promise.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2011, 05:43:01 PM »
Just because I mostly fly a skyhawk does not mean that is the only thing I am proficient in.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2011, 06:24:15 PM »
And as you can see

Tupac I happen to know that guy and how he has not killed himself by now is beyond me.

He has quite the reputation around here.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2011, 06:43:10 PM »
Tupac has gone from someone worth rooting to a kid seeking attention.

I've studied my bellybutton off, gone from 0 hours to 300 and PP-ASEL IA hp/com tw just because I want attention. That's it, congratulations. You got it. Winner winner chicken dinner.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2011, 06:53:28 PM »
No. I mean your posts here. From watching someone come up, learn, full of enthusiasm and fun to watch. You've transformed with all the videos, posts and self serving posts of accomplishments and how good you are which seems more an attention grab than sharing your accomplishments. Start a blog and call it "Look at me!!!"

I wasn't entertained by you videoing your first solo boasting with your humming. I shake my head that you'd make your first post after making this statement:



It all adds up. Now I'm done. Stay safe. I haven't anything to offer, well meaning as its been. Remember these threads in a few years and look back. See if you're proud but until then, fly safe.

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2011, 07:45:21 PM »
A 300 hour wonder kid who doesn't even know what they don't know is a dangerous thing to be. I know, I was one.

Very profound statement.  Hopefully he will understand what you've said and not get his back up.



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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2011, 08:16:58 PM »
Why anyone would give Tupac toejam after following his posts regarding his flying over the past years is beyond me.  And don't give me the trying to keep him safe nonsense.  You're a joe-shmoe on a forum on the internet.  If Tupoc has any sense he won't listen to you based on that alone.  The real reason you posted is because you felt the need to tear someone down in a transparent attempt to build yourself up.  Your attempt worked in reverse by the way.  Next time, just don't post.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2011, 08:43:53 PM »
Humility........is lost on many.



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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2011, 08:53:46 PM »
Golfer,

Tupac posts those videos because he is happy and proud of what he has done. As you said on the previous page you have 4500 hours so no one expects you to be entertained or impressed by that. And let's be realistic, you will probably never be entertained or impressed by what he's done because you are a good 10 years ahead of him and he is not going to pass you. Now those videos don't only make him happy, there are people here who do watch them and do enjoy it, also you have people that watch his videos in order to learn something. I personally don't watch his videos because I am too bored to watch a videos of someone fly up high in straight lines, but that's just me.
Your right his experience is rather limited and there are things that he does not know. There are only two ways for him to learn those things, one is keep flying and learn it by experience and the other is read stories that have been written by people such as yourself. Either way it's best for him to stay motivated and enjoy what he does, if he wont then he'll be learning a lot slower and will be a much more dangerous pilot.
I am sure that by now he had a good share of his close calls so he realizes that it's not exactly safe.
I think the best thing for us to do if we want to have any impact on his flying or his posts is to tell him stuff that would improve his flying, tell him where to get more useful information, or point out something that he should spend more time practicing.

Looking at the stuff he posted so far I think he's doing pretty good. He's been flying a lot (I don't know too many people who had/have 300 hours when they were 17), he's already got his IFR rating, he's flown in a variety of different terrains, and he's flown a good amount of different aircraft. So looking at all that I think he has a lot more flying experience that most people at the age of 17.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2011, 09:15:44 PM »
Mach,

I've never once questioned the fact he's doing very good and certainly never used his age as a disclaimer. He's not doing well for a 17 year old, he's doing well by anyone's standard.  I'd go back and find it if I weren't on my phone but self videoing with a loose camcorder on a first solo while humming something from Family Guy was my first impression. And my comment was something to the effect of "complacency on a first solo. What can go wrong?". And more than a few times since I've had the same song. That's where I take issue, not with sharing what he's proud of.

Boiler,

You'll also find I'm not at all "tearing him down" or discouraging him from doing a darn thing. I'm giving my personal (lightly filtered) opinion on his pattern of behavior not just a single action. Like it or not being in his shoes is something I'm familiar with and have a pretty good perspective on what it's like to be him. This includes mistakes I made I see him on the road to doing and they may not have a thing to do with stick and rudder flying ability.  I'm not concerned about his ability to fly his airplane.

I'm not out to prove anything and I doubt after 18 years of Air Warrior/Aces High community interaction I'm going to change someone's opinion of whatever "Golfer" is. I think he's making some mistakes and could use a refreshed perspective on a few things. He'll get it one way or another, believe it or not I'm trying to help him avoid the unpleasant way.  Like I said, I see a lot of myself I'm him and imagine this is how my parents felt trying to talk to a younger me. I see why my dads hair went gray...


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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2011, 09:20:13 PM »
Golfer, that camera in the airplane on my first solo I didnt even know it was there until after the flight. My instructor clipped it to the back of the sun visor.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2011, 09:21:56 PM »
Or front of the sun visor. Whatever way you want to look at it.
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2011, 10:14:48 PM »
With over 30 years in aviation, I have seen many self-appointed authorities come and go.   They get an instrument ticket, a pair of Ray Bans and they are Gods, all knowing all seeing experts on all things with wings.   Recognize that beyond the fact that I have had to point out many things about aviation that were wrong, you are still in the learning process.

Two guys on this board come to mind as knowing their stuff, that is Eagl and Columbo.   There are probably a few others, and no slight intended to them.  You are not yet one of them.  Sorry.


History with Dago, he's trolling and I'm not biting.

The rest I'll attribute to holiday cheer. I've had a few conversations with Tupac over the last few weeks and it's best I check out. Maybe it's generational.  Maybe it's because I see some of the things if go back and change about myself when I was one of those teenage wonder kids.  A kid who doesn't see the forest through the trees saying something snarky like that just rubbed me the wrong way.

Maybe its perspective.  I get a chance to see some real good ones in high school program earning them college credit and upon completion their Airframe certificate. They work hard, come from nothing and get something in return. Tupac has gone from someone worth rooting to a kid seeking attention. It's been a little while in the making and maybe it just was one face palm too many.

I'm sure he's quite capable but after a few of the conversations off the board we've had I guess it's time to let him learn for himself. Been there, didn't listen, done that.

Gonna get a snickers bar and see if that helps. Hey look...a tree
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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2011, 10:30:22 PM »
Two guys on this board come to mind as knowing their stuff, that is Eagl and Columbo.   There are probably a few others, and no slight intended to them.  You are not yet one of them.  Sorry.

Never said I knew anything, much less everything.

In fact, just the opposite. So when you have original material that goes beyond whatever personal chip is on your shoulder for the last 6 or so years, let me know.

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Re: Watched a stearman ground loop today
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2011, 10:32:09 PM »

Tupac posts those videos because he is happy and proud of what he has done.

I'm going to go ahead and toss in my thoughts.  Golfer don't take this as directed towards you because it ain't sir.

I've dealt with a lot of young people over the years.  I've posted about my 'kids' more than once because my house has been for the last couple of years the defacto hangout for the local teens and 20 somethings.  I've 'lost' some who had all the intelligence in the world but when you suggested that they actually 'work' they ran from it like the plague.  I've also had several that managed to stay on the right path and they're becoming contributing members of society.  I like to think I helped them out but don't take credit for anything they've accomplished.

We've got a lot of young men on this board and in this game that are motivated, intelligent, and don't shrink at the thought of picking up a tool instead of a game controller that can and do benefit from the collective wisdom of guys that have been there and done that.  To be honest I learn a TON of stuff from members on this board both young and old even though I usually have some tongue in cheek wisecrack or some self deprecating humor to share.

Reading information from real people who actually have done the things they are talking about has broadened me over the years and I think this board and this game is a ridiculously rich resource of real information.  Thank the heavens that there are young people here not only learning about real history from people who study it but practical knowledge as well.

When an experienced pilot like Golfer, Eagl, etc.., posts something I read it with interest and fascination.  Cap, Shuffler, etc, post about cars and I'm eating what they say up.  Skuzzy, Gyrene, TD, etc, talk about computers and they make me sound like a freaking genius and have saved me and the company I work for literally thousands of dollars that we might have spent on computer support.  Then there's people like Grizz and Sunbat who are in fields related to mine who I respect and admire. I even read the hunting and fishing posts not because I have any interest in those pursuits but reading things from people with real world experience and learning things is one of my singular joys in life.

I'm seriously proud of Tupac and what he's doing and where he's going with his life.  I've also seen him not only get but absorb a lot of what I can only think is good advice from advanced real life pilots that frequent this place.  He's not only a fine example of what can be right with the world (and Tup you better be hitting the knees nightly and thanking the heavens for what I perceive are really good parents that I'd like to meet someday) but also an example of what a young man can accomplish when he sets his mind to something and truly loves what he is doing.  Frankly I think he's destined for greatness not only because he works hard, obviously loves what he is doing, but has enough of a sense of humor about himself that he doesn't mind being a bit goofy from time to time.

I think we could use a few more people like him in the world and I like to think that the young men around us can remind some of us older types that life is meant to be enjoyed as well as productive.  

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