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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2012, 03:46:19 PM »
Perhaps a swift kick in the nuts, youtubed for our entertainment?

It is fairly rare as it is and HTC has a pretty good handle on their sandbox.

Otherwise, I would rather they expend their resources on developing the game, not babysitting sweetheartbags all day long.

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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2012, 04:07:06 PM »
Lets take it back to my original post:I'm asking the community for their suggestions on how to prevent this different form of cheating (when used in that fashion).
I'm not sure what you are hoping for? The technology to detect shade accounts is readily available in almost ALL cases. If HT wants to devote the resources and enforce a policy, they have the ability to do so. AND, to some extent, they do. I know of people who have been suspended, for operating a shade account. I believe ? the stated policy is that shade accounts are NOT allowed ... obviously exceptions are made, and there are some valid reasons for people sharing an IP address or an account billing. If you think there is a problem, the only solution -I- can envision, is to convince HT to aggressively enforce a NO SHADE ACCOUNT policy and tighten up on allowable exceptions. I doubt the $$$ involved is significant. In MY opinion, the ONLY people who favor ALLOWING CHEATING ... are cheaters. You can't argue with them, you can't change them, and you can't trust them.
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I do agree that expertise is often misunderstood by the inexperienced. I find that the vast majority of players in AH are honest and honerable. Personally, I resent the rare individuals who pollute the game environment with their greedy little schemes. Exterminate em.
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2012, 04:13:18 PM »
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2012, 04:54:17 PM »
I'm not sure what you are hoping for? The technology to detect shade accounts is readily available in almost ALL cases. If HT wants to devote the resources and enforce a policy, they have the ability to do so. AND, to some extent, they do. I know of people who have been suspended, for operating a shade account. I believe ? the stated policy is that shade accounts are NOT allowed ... obviously exceptions are made, and there are some valid reasons for people sharing an IP address or an account billing. If you think there is a problem, the only solution -I- can envision, is to convince HT to aggressively enforce a NO SHADE ACCOUNT policy and tighten up on allowable exceptions. I doubt the $$$ involved is significant. In MY opinion, the ONLY people who favor ALLOWING CHEATING ... are cheaters. You can't argue with them, you can't change them, and you can't trust them.
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I do agree that expertise is often misunderstood by the inexperienced. I find that the vast majority of players in AH are honest and honerable. Personally, I resent the rare individuals who pollute the game environment with their greedy little schemes. Exterminate em.
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2012, 05:43:08 PM »
i dont want to get rid of shemp.  people like him, unlike me.


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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2012, 06:14:08 PM »
Show me.   I can't find it in the TOS.

If you want to see it in writing? Ask Skuzzy ... I think it comes under his hat. I think AH strives to be flexible, I know of at least one father & son combo that ASKED before opening a second account with duplicate specs and were told, that it was not normally allowed but that their request was a reasonable exception.
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2012, 06:36:27 PM »
Show me.   I can't find it in the TOS.

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There is no stated policy.  

When my son had his account, I paid for it on the same credit card as mine.  Same IP address as mine... he even has the same name I do.  We didnt have to ask to do it, nor were any questions raised by HTC about it after we did.  They would be foolish to prohibit people from making more than one account... each account made is $14.99 a month in their pocket.

Anyone who has been suspended or banned for operating a shade account, was not banned for the second, (or third, or fourth...) account.  They were banned for what they were doing with them.
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2012, 07:17:16 PM »
If you want to see it in writing? Ask Skuzzy ... I think it comes under his hat. I think AH strives to be flexible, I know of at least one father & son combo that ASKED before opening a second account with duplicate specs and were told, that it was not normally allowed but that their request was a reasonable exception.
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HTC has never had an issue with a single household having multiple accounts. If there was an issue it would be stated in the terms of service, which it is not.

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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2012, 07:22:52 PM »
If you want to see it in writing? Ask Skuzzy ... I think it comes under his hat. I think AH strives to be flexible, I know of at least one father & son combo that ASKED before opening a second account with duplicate specs and were told, that it was not normally allowed but that their request was a reasonable exception.
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2012, 07:41:34 PM »
What is mentioned in TOS is sharing account information...  or having others fly your account.  HiTech could avoid all of this if he'd simply let me buy Ratos & 30MM's for my P38 using my mom's credit card.
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2012, 08:20:35 PM »
They were banned for what they were doing with them.
(!) I think most of us had that figured out ...
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2012, 08:51:07 PM »
Perhaps a swift kick in the nuts, youtubed for our entertainment?

It is fairly rare as it is and HTC has a pretty good handle on their sandbox.

Otherwise, I would rather they expend their resources on developing the game, not babysitting sweetheartbags all day long.

It IS after all, only a game...

...and like any other game it should have rules which everyone should abide by.

Personally I don't think the issue Pand is talking about is all that rampant. Most cases where people call foul can be explained away by watching the game play.

OTOH, if something like this IS going on I think there should be a clean and hard fast rule about it. It has already been establish that if your caught giving away the location of CV's to the enemy.... even if they are being hidden out of play is a punishable offense. Why not add a few more rules. Is parking a jeep inside a tank and firering the gun ok or not? Is having one player from your squad on a different country relaying information ok or not?

All games need rules to shape the play of the game.

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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2012, 09:05:05 PM »
...and like any other game it should have rules which everyone should abide by.

Personally I don't think the issue Pand is talking about is all that rampant. Most cases where people call foul can be explained away by watching the game play.

OTOH, if something like this IS going on I think there should be a clean and hard fast rule about it. It has already been establish that if your caught giving away the location of CV's to the enemy.... even if they are being hidden out of play is a punishable offense. Why not add a few more rules. Is parking a jeep inside a tank and firering the gun ok or not? Is having one player from your squad on a different country relaying information ok or not?

All games need rules to shape the play of the game.

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It does happen.  Obviously not as often as is presented on the boards or in game, but it does happen.  I have been on missions with Pand and have seen C47s get downed when our attacking force hasn't even upped from our base.  Well away from any opposing base, but someone comes from an enemy base noe directly to them.  Sometimes luck, granted, but it has happened more than a few times in one night.

Funny how it's mostly furballers in this thread flaming a damn good fighter pilot about an aspect of this game they don't even care about.
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2012, 10:39:59 PM »
:cheers:

It does happen.  Obviously not as often as is presented on the boards or in game, but it does happen.  I have been on missions with Pand and have seen C47s get downed when our attacking force hasn't even upped from our base.  Well away from any opposing base, but someone comes from an enemy base noe directly to them.  Sometimes luck, granted, but it has happened more than a few times in one night.

Funny how it's mostly furballers in this thread flaming a damn good fighter pilot about an aspect of this game they don't even care about.

Because people do stupid things, I was accused more then a few times in the last few tours of suspicious things, simply put - if you fly above dar then quickly hide - someone just might be watching, or spawning a lone tank to a base to watch a mission up then quickly land before someone gets near.

The game has enough tools, not everyone needs a "shade" only the ones to stupid to read a map.
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Re: Preventing Shade Accounts
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2012, 10:49:42 PM »


The game has enough tools, not everyone needs a "shade" only the ones to stupid to read a map.

Which would be the ones being discussed here, would it not? 

Amazing you could actually recruit that much suck into one squad.
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