Author Topic: Why not two Teams?  (Read 2444 times)

Offline wil3ur

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Why not two Teams?
« on: January 10, 2012, 01:39:52 AM »
Everyone complains about having two teams gang on the other, or there not being enough maps.  A simple solution would be to go to a two team dynamic in the game.  There are a ton of maps in FSO and other events that are phenomenal and would be a huge boost to the game for a great majority of the players.

In order to get around the problem of balance and hording, the game could actually "autobalance" unaffiliated players; take away the ability to sideswitch entirely.  This would get rid of SPIEZ!!!!  People without a squad would get randomly placed on login to the side with low numbers.

It's just a thought, but I'd love a change of scenery in the MA, and I know there's a lot more out there to play with.
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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 01:43:46 AM »
Your autobalance idea would prevent me from flying with my squad.

Two teams would amplify the "hoarding" bit.

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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 01:48:42 AM »
No... squads would remain on a side. As I said in my post, unaffiliated players would be put onto the side lacking numbers.
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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 01:52:48 AM »
Why not bring back LWBlue with 2 teams ?
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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 03:47:35 AM »
like i previously noted,
two teams would mean HTC will stop screwing 1/3 of their subscribers with hording from the other 2/3.
much better that two mega hordes exist to fight each other than they keep capturing undefended/indefensible bases from the other third country.


.. or maybe mega hordes will be minimized since with two countries there will actually be people who will be able to pork and defend?

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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012, 04:14:17 AM »
no not EVERYONE complains...just a small number of people who will complain about anything. :aok

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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012, 05:12:57 AM »
Definitely need a fourth team. Definitely.

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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012, 06:06:37 AM »
it all has been tryed before........  2 teams / sides........ 4 teams / sides.......

it has been researched and found that 3 teams / sides, makes for the best, for this type of game in a massive mmo environment.......

hitech ( HTC ) have already tried all the above mentioned stuff before, many years ago......


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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2012, 06:58:38 AM »
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no not EVERYONE complains...just a small number of people who will complain about anything.

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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2012, 07:10:33 AM »
Definitely need a fourth team. Definitely.

Infidelz.

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it all has been tryed before........  2 teams / sides........ 4 teams / sides.......

it has been researched and found that 3 teams / sides, makes for the best, for this type of game in a massive mmo environment.......

hitech ( HTC ) have already tried all the above mentioned stuff before, many years ago......


just saying

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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2012, 09:50:10 AM »
like i previously noted,
two teams would mean HTC will stop screwing 1/3 of their subscribers with hording from the other 2/3.
much better that two mega hordes exist to fight each other than they keep capturing undefended/indefensible bases from the other third country.


.. or maybe mega hordes will be minimized since with two countries there will actually be people who will be able to pork and defend?


There is no way to magically change players attitudes. Why should  they suddenly start to pork and defend in a two-sided war? If they didn't care for it before, they won't care for it then. What is called 'mega hordes' is not there because there are tow, three, four of ten sides.
Players loving attack and ignoring defense will continue to do so. In worst case, you will simply have one horde dominating one sector of the front while the opposing horde will rape another.

WHat is also being left out is the fact that with three teams, every side will be ganged upon once in a while. With only two sides, you may quickly end up in one faction getting bigger and bigger, and the other smaller and smaller (this would be is massively amplified in an  Allied vs Axis setup, which is also often wished for in this context).
 Shuffling players without "affiliation' won't work, as there are actually very few players without a squad, and most of them are twoweekers, so they can't help the outnumbered side for the most part.
And to think that this would stop any 'spying' is , excuse me, quite naive. Sometimes people seem to be quite obsessed when spotting players of the same squad on different countries. I for one am convinced that any actual 'spying' is done waaaaayyyyy less obvious. Wouldn't a true spy do everything to avoid such attention at all?
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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2012, 10:02:22 AM »
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Why didnt the 2 sided teams not work out TC you remember?

The comment I saw somewhere along the way in the forum was that comparatively speaking, 3 teams provided more gameplay diversity than 2 teams.  The way I read it, with 2 teams you pretty much just got one or two fights going at a time.  With 3 sides, there are more possibilities.  Something along those lines.  Whether or not that applies today, I can't say, but that's what I read in an older post.

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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2012, 10:11:32 AM »
Why not bring back LWBlue with 2 teams ?
that sounds like a really  good idea, cause i am tired fo having to go to the dueling arena when the ma is full
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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 10:18:24 AM »
AH has always had 3 sides since I started playing about July '07.  I have played on all three sides and can say I like the idea of my squad, or if I'm not in a squad, can float between all three.  I don't report to any side what the other side may or may not be doing. Making it only 2 sides would be too much AvA or FSO and we already have those options.

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Re: Why not two Teams?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 10:21:57 AM »
that sounds like a really  good idea, cause i am tired fo having to go to the dueling arena when the ma is full



So when was the last time you couldn't get into the MA, because it was full?
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