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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #90 on: January 12, 2012, 11:32:41 PM »
Also in the years of broadband, 4.7Gb DVD's, 1Tb HDD's, the client download size is irrelevant. I'd download a 10Gb Aces high client with a big smile on my face.

In the years of broadband, 4.7Gb DVD's, 1Tb HDD's, I still have a 32kb/s download speed. If I've been a good boy.
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #91 on: January 13, 2012, 12:29:26 AM »
Another 10minutes of my life has been wasted staring at spike's avatar

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Huh, Tobias (err I mean Spikes)?

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #92 on: January 13, 2012, 12:34:39 AM »
First off, I'm not complaining. I just got back into AH after a ~three year hiatus and I'm lovin' every minute of it.

That said, it's time for AH3.

It's not just that the graphics are bad, it's that the engine is dated. You shouldn't be able to make a modern computer chug along with graphics like this just because you turned up the shadows. Seriously.

There's always people in threads like these who are concerned about whether their current hardware would run a modern AH, but...whether you like to admit it or not, and whether this game is the only one you play or not, you're still a gamer. And gamers have to upgrade their hardware. That's just the way it is.

BTW, this is coming from someone who would probably have to upgrade if we really did get an AH3. C2D @ 3.6ghz, 2GB RAM, 9800GT, WinXP. Well, upgrade to get the full experience anyway. I'm sure the game would run on this hardware, just not sure how well.

Also, maybe it's because I'm used to paying $30-50 for a game and that's it. But a new plane model here and there doesn't make me and my $15/month happy. Yeah, I know, servers bandwidth blah blah blah. Still, it adds up. But, like I said, I'm not complaining (that much). At this point in my life I'm perfectly happy to pay monthly for the kind of experience I get here. No other game gets my blood going quite like this one. Doesn't mean I have to stay quiet about it.  :devil

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #93 on: January 13, 2012, 12:37:58 AM »
:old: Appreciating the beauty of art and nature is never a waste of time.

Huh, Tobias (err I mean Spikes)?

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #94 on: January 13, 2012, 12:43:27 AM »

It's not just that the graphics are bad, it's that the engine is dated. You shouldn't be able to make a modern computer chug along with graphics like this just because you turned up the shadows. Seriously.


Then buy an old  computer, problem solved ; your modern computer is no longer 'suffering' through these 'bad' graphics.

How do you know whether or not the engine is outdated? Did you create it or help with its upkeep? If not, you've never been hit by a cluebyfour.
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #95 on: January 13, 2012, 02:23:17 AM »
This was just posted by USRanger in another thread, but it works here.



I dont know but that looks good to me.

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #96 on: January 13, 2012, 03:44:38 AM »
Wow that looks good.

Except that the ground clutter...well..kinda disappears quite abruptly.  I was told it was not possible to extend it, which honestly sucks, but damn imagine if it did, it would be pretty on par with most other mmo's  Wish my PC could show those graphics.

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #97 on: January 13, 2012, 06:16:20 AM »
Wow that looks good.

Except that the ground clutter...well..kinda disappears quite abruptly.  I was told it was not possible to extend it, which honestly sucks, but damn imagine if it did, it would be pretty on par with most other mmo's  Wish my PC could show those graphics.

Actually not so. As I've said before it seems that the AH2 graphics engine has severe problems with handling shadows and reflections, the latter which are missing almost totally.

One notable thing is that other games do not require the use of 8 meg shadow textures, which effectively eat up all vram, to produce semi-decent shadowing effect. This in itself shows something is flawed in the design.
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #98 on: January 13, 2012, 10:18:46 AM »
I wish HTC would licence World of Planes' game engine and create AHIII. :pray

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Download WoP benchmark and run it. Compare the avg FPS with what you get in AH. You'll realize that state of AH graphics makes sense for a game that it is.

Unless you want to play with maybe 10 another peeps in MA during prime time, you shouldn't wish for WoP=AHIII...

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #99 on: January 13, 2012, 10:34:15 AM »
One notable thing is that other games do not require the use of 8 meg shadow textures, which effectively eat up all vram, to produce semi-decent shadowing effect. This in itself shows something is flawed in the design.

Many games are using texture based shadows, but not many have settings for texture size, and just because you don't understand HTC's design goals doesn't mean design is flawed.

You can play AH with most settings maxed on mid-range graphic card, you can't do that with any other games mentioned in this thread.

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #100 on: January 13, 2012, 10:35:07 AM »
 :O   :joystick: I want that terrain!!!!!
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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #101 on: January 13, 2012, 12:16:00 PM »
First off, I'm not complaining. I just got back into AH after a ~three year hiatus and I'm lovin' every minute of it.

That said, it's time for AH3.

It's not just that the graphics are bad, it's that the engine is dated. You shouldn't be able to make a modern computer chug along with graphics like this just because you turned up the shadows. Seriously.

There's always people in threads like these who are concerned about whether their current hardware would run a modern AH, but...whether you like to admit it or not, and whether this game is the only one you play or not, you're still a gamer. And gamers have to upgrade their hardware. That's just the way it is.

BTW, this is coming from someone who would probably have to upgrade if we really did get an AH3. C2D @ 3.6ghz, 2GB RAM, 9800GT, WinXP. Well, upgrade to get the full experience anyway. I'm sure the game would run on this hardware, just not sure how well.

Also, maybe it's because I'm used to paying $30-50 for a game and that's it. But a new plane model here and there doesn't make me and my $15/month happy. Yeah, I know, servers bandwidth blah blah blah. Still, it adds up. But, like I said, I'm not complaining (that much). At this point in my life I'm perfectly happy to pay monthly for the kind of experience I get here. No other game gets my blood going quite like this one. Doesn't mean I have to stay quiet about it.  :devil

Asking for AH3 is meaningless, it's just a name.  In fact, HTC changed the named of the game from Aces High 2 back to Aces High, which makes sense.  The newest downloadable version is always the latest game version.

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #102 on: January 13, 2012, 02:10:19 PM »
Download WoP benchmark and run it. Compare the avg FPS with what you get in AH. You'll realize that state of AH graphics makes sense for a game that it is.

Unless you want to play with maybe 10 another peeps in MA during prime time, you shouldn't wish for WoP=AHIII...

I have the benchmark on my 2009 gaming system. Below are my computer specs, benchmark settings and results.

Intel core I7 2.6Ghz @ 4.0Ghz.
6GB RAM @1600mhz DDR3, 8-8-8-24.
ATI HD5850 X2 (Please note that WoP doesn't currently have a CAP profile so multi GPU scaling is non existent. Only one GFX card was used during the test)

I have no love for motion blur so it wasn't used in this benchmark.

Results for day benchmark (massive amounts of volumetric clouds)

Results for night benchmark (much less amounts of volumetric clouds)


Conclusion

Even without CF support the game runs butter smooth.



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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #103 on: January 13, 2012, 02:17:13 PM »
I have the benchmark on my 2009 gaming system. Below are my computer specs, benchmark settings and results.

Intel core I7 2.6Ghz @ 4.0Ghz.
6GB RAM @1600mhz DDR3, 8-8-8-24.
ATI HD5850 X2 (Please note that WoP doesn't currently have a CAP profile so multi GPU scaling is non existent. Only one GFX card was used during the test)

I have no love for motion blur so it wasn't used in this benchmark.
(Image removed from quote.)
Results for day benchmark (massive amounts of volumetric clouds)
(Image removed from quote.)
Results for night benchmark (much less amounts of volumetric clouds)
(Image removed from quote.)

Conclusion

Even without CF support the game runs butter smooth.

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Re: TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.
« Reply #104 on: January 13, 2012, 02:21:25 PM »
Bwahahaha! Wassup!
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