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Offline F22RaptorDude

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So this is a little scary
« on: January 29, 2012, 10:15:00 AM »
So at student driving school  we were hydroplaning in the parking lot before we went to go grab pizza to show how the car reacts and how to regain control. Well we took a turn to sharp and rammed into the curb doing 30 and the bags deployed, no one in the car was hurt and the only damage was the dash where the bags came out.

Anyway that got me to thinking about how my F-150 would stand up to a crash, on the roads here my average speed taken from posted signs is around 50, This is a crash test video at 40 mph, its kinda scary knowing that would it could look like and I know the driver would either be dead or seriously injured

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wb66PzljP8
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 10:34:52 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wb66PzljP8

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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 10:40:31 AM »
The newer F150s do very, very much better. 

There are reasons I bought a Toyota Tundra in 2001, this among them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLT4eQr3j7o
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 10:43:51 AM »
I took drivers ed in Montana when there was no speed limit on Highways (safe and prudent).   We were driving down one of the main highways and this guy in a crap truck was only going 50mph, so the instructor told me to pass him, which I started to do (For those who've never been, a Montana Highway can be and is often a 2 lane road).  Well, the guy in front of us didn't use his turn signal and made a left turn.  I had to slam the breaks and veer back into the right lane to avoid T-Boning the guy.  It was scary as hell...  then the instructor made me pass someone else 3 minutes later, the bastage!
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 10:49:03 AM »
"Overall evaluation - Poor"
 :huh
Over here in England we'd call that an understatement.
That is a damn deathtrap!
There is literally no crumple zone what so ever in the engine compartment, I mean you could crawl through the compartment from the bottom there is so much room. Seeing this saying i'm scared is a large understatement, i'm terrified!

The newer F150s do very, very much better. 

There are reasons I bought a Toyota Tundra in 2001, this among them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLT4eQr3j7o
I like that, i'm a big ford fan, but dying in one isn't in my planning book, I like how it never gets past the rear of the engine block

I took drivers ed in Montana when there was no speed limit on Highways (safe and prudent).   We were driving down one of the main highways and this guy in a crap truck was only going 50mph, so the instructor told me to pass him, which I started to do (For those who've never been, a Montana Highway can be and is often a 2 lane road).  Well, the guy in front of us didn't use his turn signal and made a left turn.  I had to slam the breaks and veer back into the right lane to avoid T-Boning the guy.  It was scary as hell...  then the instructor made me pass someone else 3 minutes later, the bastage!
I've heard the horror stories from other people who drove while I was in class, he would ask people in class who drove with who the day before and ask em what they did, passing, slamming on brakes, sliding in gravel doing 40, the instructor is a freaking nut case!
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 10:59:46 AM »
Subsequent F150 model in 2004 test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jongDRViwno

2007 Tundra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oKFifCeQ-0&feature=related


As you can see, the F150 was massively improved in the next model.  The Tundra still does well.
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 11:06:13 AM »
A smart car does better than my truck I mean c'mon! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP6YYCcvwPs

Subsequent F150 model in 2004 test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jongDRViwno

2007 Tundra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oKFifCeQ-0&feature=related


As you can see, the F150 was massively improved in the next model.  The Tundra still does well.
A lot of improvement i'd say, that Tundra just shrugs it off
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 11:15:09 AM »
A smart car does better than my truck I mean c'mon! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP6YYCcvwPs
Keep in mind it has a lot less mass to decelerate.  Also keep in mind that if your truck had an offset collision with a SMART car while both going 20mph (aka, 40mph offset as in those tests), the mismatch is masses would send the car flying while the damage to your truck would be far less than in the video.  Because of the different masses those tests don't really tell the whole story about a collision between two vehicles.
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 11:15:26 AM »
One of the considerations when we bought our '08 Wrangler was its ability to handle collisions. Adding extremely rugged off road bumpers and additional armor (that stiffens the body/frame) results in even better crash performance. Just remember that the roof adds almost not strength to the vehicle and the doors do little more than keep out the weather. This is one very stout vehicle. I know a guy who caused a 5 car chain reaction crash when he plowed his Wrangler into a line of stopped traffic. Two cars were totaled. The 2006 Jetta he hit directly and a 2001 Civic in front of the Honda. A 2007 F-150 was considerably damaged (I think he said that the claim was for $4700). He drove his Jeep to the dealer where they found no damage to the Jeep, but recommended that he replace the beat-up bumper cover. His total repair cost? $112 plus 1 hour labor. Didn't even require an alignment.

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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2012, 11:16:38 AM »
if you buy a leveling kit for your truck it may save you if you get in a crash. Just watch the difference between stock head colision and a leveled out truck head on colision and the lift made a huge differnce.


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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2012, 11:32:33 AM »
The main road in and out of my area is a 2 lane road posted at 45 mph.   It seems the unwritten rule around here that 5- 10 mph over is the norm.  That being said, you're looking at an impact speed of 90- probably 110 mph.  At that impact a truck is gonna destroy any smaller vehicle. Odds of survivability in either vehicle, IMO, is slim to none.  The good news is I've lived in this same spot for 6-1/2 yrs now and haven't seen any HOs on that road.      :pray
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2012, 11:42:19 AM »
Keep in mind it has a lot less mass to decelerate.  Also keep in mind that if your truck had an offset collision with a SMART car while both going 20mph (aka, 40mph offset as in those tests), the mismatch is masses would send the car flying while the damage to your truck would be far less than in the video.  Because of the different masses those tests don't really tell the whole story about a collision between two vehicles.

I don't believe 2 cars going 20 equal a 40mph impact. That might be the rate of closure but it's still just a 20mph impact.

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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2012, 11:58:59 AM »
I don't believe 2 cars going 20 equal a 40mph impact. That might be the rate of closure but it's still just a 20mph impact.
Negative.  It is a 40mph collision if they hit head on.
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2012, 12:00:49 PM »
I don't believe 2 cars going 20 equal a 40mph impact. That might be the rate of closure but it's still just a 20mph impact.

A HO at 20mph would be the same as hitting a parked car at 40mph.
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Re: So this is a little scary
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2012, 12:03:11 PM »
So at student driving school  we were hydroplaning in the parking lot before we went to go grab pizza to show how the car reacts and how to regain control. Well we took a turn to sharp and rammed into the curb doing 30 and the bags deployed, no one in the car was hurt and the only damage was the dash where the bags came out.

Anyway that got me to thinking about how my F-150 would stand up to a crash, on the roads here my average speed taken from posted signs is around 50, This is a crash test video at 40 mph, its kinda scary knowing that would it could look like and I know the driver would either be dead or seriously injured

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wb66PzljP8

Working with the State Patrol, one of our main jobs is accident investigation. I've seen a lot of accident scenes. Vehicles are made to fold up and take the impact so your body doesn't. Most people that are injured are those that don't wear their seat belt or someone is sitting behind them that doesn't have their seat belt on.
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