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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #135 on: February 12, 2012, 11:50:26 AM »
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #136 on: February 12, 2012, 11:51:16 AM »
Now, add in the fact that your rescued GVer has to drive up to 15 mins  back to base to land his "rescued" kills or just to save his k/d ratio and you are less time back in the battle getting rescued.  We are talking total time...if he would have just died, he could have already respawned.   Hes not getting resupped to die bro.  Nice try though :salute
It doesn't work that way if you can get separation from the enemy.  GVs don't have to be on concrete to "land successfully", just a certain distance from any enemy.

Also, most often the "rescued" GVer doesn't head back to base, but rather back into the fight from the point of his rescue.
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #137 on: February 12, 2012, 12:01:54 PM »
Hey!! Welcome to the "I know more than you forums"

I don't engage in conflicts that do not matter...

And yet, you are still here trolling and babbling "look at me" in the middle of a conflict that doesnt matter.

Barely a hundred posts and you already have joined the ranks of the dumbest these forums have to offer.
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #138 on: February 12, 2012, 12:25:34 PM »
It doesn't work that way if you can get separation from the enemy.  GVs don't have to be on concrete to "land successfully", just a certain distance from any enemy.

Also, most often the "rescued" GVer doesn't head back to base, but rather back into the fight from the point of his rescue.

Ive GV'd plenty of times over the years and separation is relative bud...sometimes separation takes longer than driving back to the base depending on the map.  No dice.  I will give all of you this:  If the GV's get the armor cleared from the battlefield, your land is golden...no driving necessary.  I have seen that happen one time in a full-tilt battle and spawn campers at small, local battles (if you wanna call 5 guys camping 30 noobs a battle) don't need rescuing from supps because they never get shot...they win the battlefield from attrition.  Even noobs get tired of getting killed repeatedly! lol
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #139 on: February 12, 2012, 12:27:21 PM »
Hey!! Welcome to the "I know more than you forums"

I don't engage in conflicts that do not matter...

Then you should have just moved along instead of adding to the:

Welcome to the "My sarcasm is as useless as I am" postings....everyone needs a goal I suppose.
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #140 on: February 12, 2012, 12:50:59 PM »
It just occurred to me. The one valid argument that any of you Jealous Jennys have, has a simple solution.

It COULD be a problem if too many people decide to ask for a pick up. And it makes perfect sense to assume this although I dont think that it would be as popular of an option as some of you girls think.

Simple fix: NO COMMUNICATION FROM DOWNED PILOTS!

Whiners are so clueless.

Oops. Sorry. Back to my point. A pilot downed behind enemy lines had little to no access to comms, so it's fair enough to say that neither should you. The only way to get a pick up should be if you report that your going down before the bail or ditch. And if you cant stop crying about this compromise, then they could even go so far as to make a pick-up a squad only function where only a member can pick-up another member.

And the only way to find said pilot is if someone covers him from the sky until the storch arrives or the storch pilot gets very lucky.

A simple fix and an even better adventure than the original idea.



Logic has eluded you my friend. Of course EVERYONE is going to want to be rescued.
This game is filled with score tards and I am going to have to assume you are one as well since you are campaigning so fiercely for this wish. Pilots need to end their sortie and get back up in the air so there is more action for everyone. Besides yourself, who really wants to fly around avoiding combat and only shootin down storches on rescue missions?

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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #141 on: February 12, 2012, 12:53:46 PM »
Now, add in the fact that your rescued GVer has to drive up to 15 mins  back to base to land his "rescued" kills or just to save his k/d ratio and you are less time back in the battle getting rescued.  We are talking total time...if he would have just died, he could have already respawned.   Hes not getting resupped to die bro.  Nice try though :salute

Now who's ascribing motivations to other people?  Plenty of people use supplies in plenty of ways, it's not always the guy flipped over calling for supplies.  More often than not, it's guys dropping a bunch of supplies in an area to support a fight.  There's more than one reason to have vehicles capable of dropping supplies.  The only reason to have a guy waiting in a field for a pickup is to kill time and save score.

The only thing it adds to a fight is a bunch more chute vulching and a slow defenseless target.

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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #142 on: February 12, 2012, 01:00:43 PM »
Now who's ascribing motivations to other people?  Plenty of people use supplies in plenty of ways, it's not always the guy flipped over calling for supplies.  More often than not, it's guys dropping a bunch of supplies in an area to support a fight.  There's more than one reason to have vehicles capable of dropping supplies.  The only reason to have a guy waiting in a field for a pickup is to kill time and save score.

The only thing it adds to a fight is a bunch more chute vulching and a slow defenseless target.

Wiley.

I ascribe nothing...those are the GV resup facts and, btw, that suppo runner is out of the fight.  Most of the time, there are 8 suppo runners because they need the perks associated with the suppo rescue.

Chute vulching and shooting at slow defenseless targets is a risk some people want to take...this idea should make the scoretards very happy.  This is a win/win all the way around actually.
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #143 on: February 12, 2012, 01:02:17 PM »
Logic has eluded you my friend. Of course EVERYONE is going to want to be rescued.
This game is filled with score tards and I am going to have to assume you are one as well since you are campaigning so fiercely for this wish. Pilots need to end their sortie and get back up in the air so there is more action for everyone. Besides yourself, who really wants to fly around avoiding combat and only shootin down storches on rescue missions?

No bakery guy....I have no desire to be rescued...you are making another ridiculous assumption.  Zero contribution from this one
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #144 on: February 12, 2012, 01:22:26 PM »
For all of you "get the guy back in the battle" defenders...

Maybe, if the altfairy, scoretard, basevulch, smashrunner, no-fight-in-um, yellow backs get the idea that MAYBE they would be rescued, they might actually come down and square dance with those of us who are going blind by squinting trying to see the outline of their planes at 31K feet AGL.  Where you might lose a guy or two getting rescued, you win 50 of these tards who will come down from their NASA sight-seeing mission to fight.  If they had enough time on their hands to get to 30K, they certainly don't mind waiting on ride back to base.
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #145 on: February 12, 2012, 01:47:32 PM »
For all of you "get the guy back in the battle" defenders...

Maybe, if the altfairy, scoretard, basevulch, smashrunner, no-fight-in-um, yellow backs get the idea that MAYBE they would be rescued, they might actually come down and square dance with those of us who are going blind by squinting trying to see the outline of their planes at 31K feet AGL.  Where you might lose a guy or two getting rescued, you win 50 of these tards who will come down from their NASA sight-seeing mission to fight.  If they had enough time on their hands to get to 30K, they certainly don't mind waiting on ride back to base.

Holy crap, it's going to fix ALL THAT?!  They should implement this tomorrow!  :rofl

People don't need more motivation to avoid fighting, which is all this idea would provide.

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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #146 on: February 12, 2012, 01:48:53 PM »
Logic has eluded you my friend. Of course EVERYONE is going to want to be rescued.
This game is filled with score tards and I am going to have to assume you are one as well since you are campaigning so fiercely for this wish. Pilots need to end their sortie and get back up in the air so there is more action for everyone. Besides yourself, who really wants to fly around avoiding combat and only shootin down storches on rescue missions?

Negative. Logic has eluded you my young BBS stooge. Perhaps in a few hundred more posts you might acquire true enlightenment.

First off, the scoring system works against using this wish as a means of having a higher score. That is because one of the criteria for having a high score is kills per hour

If you look at the top ranked pilots in the game, just from memory, they have averages of around 15 kills per hour. Any time score potatos decide to work on score, they look specifically for high target areas where they can take off, get lots of kills, and land in the shortest period of time. That process is mandatory if you are going to make it to the top of the score board. If you sit around waiting for rescues, it kills any chance you have of achieving a high score just as much as spraying and praying kills your hit percentage and also lowers your overall score. Wrong on count 1.



Of course EVERYONE is going to want to be rescued.

Secondly, we have a vehicle supply system that repairs tanks and GVs instantly and you dont see EVERYONE sitting around waiting for supps every time they get crippled. Wrong on count 2.


Pilots need to end their sortie and get back up in the air so there is more action for everyone.

Then Htc needs to get rid of the vehicle supplies so that GVrs stop wasting so much time. If they lose a turret, or an engine, it most likely wouldnt be a simple field repair so they are out of the fight. Wrong on count 3.



Besides yourself, who really wants to fly around avoiding combat and only shootin down storches on rescue missions?

You apparently dont know me at all, but keep trying.
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #147 on: February 12, 2012, 01:59:36 PM »
Why would someone stick around and fight it out in the deck when u can easily get head shot killed or wounded too low to bail? All this would do is cause dweebs to fly to the nearest barn, bail out then hide. No combat.  And Muzik more people in the game care about surviving moreso than score. This is just a bad bad idea.

And you are right I don't know you Muzik, but can only make inferences as to your operandis by your absurd stance.
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #148 on: February 12, 2012, 02:03:50 PM »
Ive GV'd plenty of times over the years and separation is relative

I dont GV that much, but how do you even know for sure that there are no enemy GVs around? Isnt the typical strategy to drive so far from the combat area that there is little chance that an enemy GV is around or find a pad to end sortie on?
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Re: Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message
« Reply #149 on: February 12, 2012, 02:47:35 PM »
Why would someone stick around and fight it out in the deck when u can easily get head shot killed or wounded too low to bail? All this would do is cause dweebs to fly to the nearest barn, bail out then hide. No combat.  And Muzik more people in the game care about surviving moreso than score. This is just a bad bad idea.

And you are right I don't know you Muzik, but can only make inferences as to your operandis by your absurd stance.

So you found out you are wrong and you change your argument. Thats a surprising turn of events.

It is funny how incoherent people become when they try to hold on to a losing argument. Your question makes no sense and seems to completely leave the subject of the OP.

Let me see if I can decipher your question. "Why would someone stick around and fight it out [on] the deck when u can easily get [edit for clarity] killed[?] or wounded too low to bail?  You're asking me why would anyone fight when they know they can just avoid combat all-together?

OMG really? The obvious answer is that none of us play this game to avoid combat. But everyone has their preferred way of doing things. Some people look for the safest means of accomplishing their goals. Others are impetuous and dive head first into every situation no matter what the odds. People rarely change that drastically and you are suggesting that everyone is going to all of a sudden change their behavior because of one minor change in the game.

And Muzik more people in the game care about surviving moreso than score.

In other words, no one wants to die. Wow, brilliant observation you made there.

So let me clarify your stances. First you said it was the score potatos who would abuse the rescue. When you were proved wrong, you changed it to the entire population of the game. So are you going to bail to avoid combat? Are any of the other stooges here going to bail to avoid combat? I suppose that all of the adults that have an hour or so a day or week to play this game would rather spend it sitting on the ground waiting for rescue.

NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE THEIR PERSONALITY for a rescue!

And Muffin, more people in the game care about engaging in combat than waiting for a rescue. Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong. Please.
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