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Offline Raphael

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Barefoot Gen
« on: February 01, 2012, 09:52:23 PM »
just wanted to share...

amazing animation I found randomly over youtube. I truly recomend watching it, it is simply incridible. here is the first part. this guy uploaded in 9 parts and it is dubbed in english. Hope you guys check it out, I loved it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCK4arVflHE
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 09:53:28 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 10:16:04 AM »
here is one thing the uploader put on the videos' comments

"if this film urges you to hate an entire nation then know you are planting the same bad seed in your heart that creates wars .humans are weak creatures that can cooperate to live happily this short time on earth. planting joy in somebody's heart is priceless as planting hate. I observed many hatred comments towards USA & Japan, and this is not what i hoped or desired to come out as a result of showing this film. long live to the people of USA & Japan & all earth."

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Re: Barefoot Gen
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 05:56:23 PM »
Bah! Screw them. A racist, imperialistic nation declares war on a continent full of other countries and then employs the most inhumane tactics to gain an empire of slaves. The crimes of the Japanese Empire in WW2 are so horrific they even made Nazi observers sick. Everything from enslaving entire countries of females for rape camps to rampant torture of POWs, using biological weapons and human subjects for their testing in unit 731, slaughtering entire cities full of civilians just for "fun". Even killing and eating the body parts of American airman.

I just watched a show on Hiroshima and got about 1/2 way thru it until I had to turn it off. The BBC made it look like the Americans just picked out a city for no reason and nuked it just for fun. God knows how many troops we would have lost if we had to invade that Nation full of fanatics.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 06:04:06 PM »
here is one thing the uploader put on the videos' comments

"if this film urges you to hate an entire nation then know you are planting the same bad seed in your heart that creates wars .humans are weak creatures that can cooperate to live happily this short time on earth. planting joy in somebody's heart is priceless as planting hate. I observed many hatred comments towards USA & Japan, and this is not what i hoped or desired to come out as a result of showing this film. long live to the people of USA & Japan & all earth."

Every country, culture, and group has at some point committed acts of unimaginable horror for their its cause.  However, the opposite is also true for wonders of technology, trade, charity, and mercy.  It's truly a mixed bag, and we shouldn't paint each other as evil.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 06:06:32 PM »
sir did you read what is written up there? It was not also my intent when I posted this here... is just one of the horrible things among other horrible things that ALL the countries did and do. but maybe you didn't watch or read before commenting here :(
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 06:13:26 PM »
Who?  Me?  I should probably quote Rich52 and edit a bit to avoid Rule #14.

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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 06:16:30 PM »
no no, I mean rich, he has gone out of topic with that post. I swear it was not my intention when I shared this link with the community here. is a beautifull movie. I see people commenting on "1941" and other ww2 themed movies and figured this one i discovered randomly (which I instanly loved) was a good one and decided to share, also liked what the uploader said on what I quoted above.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 01:04:59 PM »
no no, I mean rich, he has gone out of topic with that post. I swear it was not my intention when I shared this link with the community here. is a beautifull movie. I see people commenting on "1941" and other ww2 themed movies and figured this one i discovered randomly (which I instanly loved) was a good one and decided to share, also liked what the uploader said on what I quoted above.
The movie 1941 was a real movie and somewhat poking fun at the time frame. The one you posted is a cartoon... not very well done either. I could not watch it past about 1 minute. Just poor animation.
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Re: Barefoot Gen
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 01:32:37 PM »
not a big pokemon fan huh?  :D

the animation was made in the 80's and with low bugdet (says the internet, so I can not be sure  :o )

well animations can be* "real movies" too... there are so many animation movies everywhere and they are real movies :)
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 01:38:18 PM »
Revisionist crap.  The japanese 100% earned the ending of that war of aggression that they started.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 03:03:18 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 04:15:00 PM »
Revisionist crap.  The japanese 100% earned the ending of that war of aggression that they started.

The Japanese people really didn't have much say in going to war, save for overthrowing their despotic, ultramilitarist government and starting over.  It's like blaming Germans for WWII- they had no clue what they were getting into when they elected Hitler and the Nazi party, and once in, the Nazi regime's totalitarianism removed their ability to stage a coup d'etat.  It's difficult to see history from another person's perspective; in the US, any native-born citizen over 35 could theoretically become president, and almost every citizen over 18 can vote.  However, in a country like Japan before WWII, the people had no say in the government, which was run by a nepotistic despot who held absolute power.  If Japan, in such a state, goes to war, then its the government that is responsible.  If it's the US or any other democracy, then the people do have a say, and the argument that you made could hold true.  However, it is illogical to blame the people of Japan for WWII; they couldn't have stopped it no matter how much they protested.

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 05:55:02 PM »
The Japanese people really didn't have much say in going to war, save for overthrowing their despotic, ultramilitarist government and starting over.  It's like blaming Germans for WWII- they had no clue what they were getting into when they elected Hitler and the Nazi party, and once in, the Nazi regime's totalitarianism removed their ability to stage a coup d'etat.  It's difficult to see history from another person's perspective; in the US, any native-born citizen over 35 could theoretically become president, and almost every citizen over 18 can vote.  However, in a country like Japan before WWII, the people had no say in the government, which was run by a nepotistic despot who held absolute power.  If Japan, in such a state, goes to war, then its the government that is responsible.  If it's the US or any other democracy, then the people do have a say, and the argument that you made could hold true.  However, it is illogical to blame the people of Japan for WWII; they couldn't have stopped it no matter how much they protested.

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They are to blame for everything that happened in that war. First off Hitler was elected by Democratic means. Then the German people, a Democratic God fearing people, kept selling more and more of their souls to that despot and his cronies. Very few protested. A few brave souls tried to kill Hitler, "tho mostly to save Germany and not for Hitlers crimes". The Holocaust and treatment of other races by both Germany and Japan had to be the worst kept secrets of the war.

But no matter how you cut it nothing exuses the revisionist history of Japan and its failure to admit its guilt for WW2. Japan is more a "nation family" then just a "nation" and to this day are in denial as to what their citizens, soldiers, and govt., really did in that war. Germany I think has come to grips with WW2 and as a nation avoids revisionism.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 06:08:18 PM »
If Japan deserved to be nuked then the US deserved 9/11

I'm sure this will make idiots like Rich52 spaz out, but as he seems the type to believe that terrorists only attacked the US because they are jealous of your freedoms, or because Islam dictates it, I won't worry about it ;)
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