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Offline rogwar

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Drug test
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 02:33:16 PM »
if there was a drug test that was required to pass 1/2 the nation would be out of a job.  I wont pass one and I dont do illegal drugs.


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Re: Drug test
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 02:52:48 PM »
You shouldn't have to pass one to get a job. 

Urine tests are frequently used to terminate employees even though they don't determine whether or not someone is under the influence of drugs.  They don't even test for drugs, they only test for drug metabolites so they only show if a person has used drugs recently (4 hours to 2 months).  They're also incredibly easy to cheat.

The only method I've ever personally practiced to pass one is abstinence, yet I've still had 2 false positives and it's not much fun proving a false positive wrong.  I'm still blacklisted for life from donating plasma in the U.S. probably due to something I ate that contained poppy seeds.

Ask yourself this question.  Would you trust a breathalyzer to determine whether or not you are currently drunk if it were only capable of determining whether or not you've consumed alcohol during the last several weeks?
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 02:54:15 PM »
if there was a drug test that was required to pass 1/2 the nation would be out of a job.  I wont pass one and I dont do illegal drugs.


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I disagree.

How much experience do you have with administration of drug screening?   Eating Poppy Seed bagels won't do it, for instance.

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Re: Drug test
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 02:58:33 PM »
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 03:00:12 PM »
I disagree.

How much experience do you have with administration of drug screening?   Eating Poppy Seed bagels won't do it, for instance.

Yes it can, and it has for me.  I've taken more than I can count and I have read extensively about the methods and mechanics of the common testing methods as well as discussed it at length with a close friend who manages a lab and gives me free pre-tests whenever I feel the need.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 03:07:21 PM »
I disagree.

How much experience do you have with administration of drug screening?   Eating Poppy Seed bagels won't do it, for instance.

That hasn't been an issue for years since most agencies have raised the cut-off level as the opiate tests were much too sensitive.

I think it is at about 2000 ng/ML, now.  A lot of folks did get screwed in the beginning, although I didn't know that there was a national list for dope addicts that wanted to give plasma...
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 03:10:55 PM »
That hasn't been an issue for years since most agencies have raised the cut-off level as the opiate tests were much too sensitive.

I think it is at about 2000 ng/ML, now.  A lot of folks did get screwed in the beginning.

I hope you're right, I'm not as familiar with opiates as I am other things and I failed that test back in 1999 when I was a starving college student.  For THC it's still 50 ppm in the U.S. for those who go to concerts.  The plasma place only tested for opiates and they said they were only concerned with needle drugs.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 03:17:05 PM »
I hope you're right, I'm not as familiar with opiates as I am other things and I failed that test back in 1999 when I was a starving college student.  For THC it's still 50 ppm in the U.S. for those who go to concerts.  The plasma place only tested for opiates and they said they were only concerned with needle drugs.

DOT tests were relaxed some years back and you'd have to eat jars of poppy seeds to trigger a positive. Simply eating Poppy seeds as an ingredient won't trigger a positive on your 5 panel DOT drug screen.

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Re: Drug test
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 03:17:30 PM »
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 03:31:13 PM »
I hope you're right, I'm not as familiar with opiates as I am other things and I failed that test back in 1999 when I was a starving college student.  For THC it's still 50 ppm in the U.S. for those who go to concerts.  The plasma place only tested for opiates and they said they were only concerned with needle drugs.

Opiates are not the only drugs that are consumed, through a needle.  In fact, Methamphetamine are by far, the most abused Schedule II drug in the US.

I would tend to believe Golfer.  As a commercial pilot, he is probably very up to date on drug policies and the DOT regs.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 03:41:18 PM »
I hope you're right, I'm not as familiar with opiates as I am other things and I failed that test back in 1999 when I was a starving college student.  For THC it's still 50 ppm in the U.S. for those who go to concerts.  The plasma place only tested for opiates and they said they were only concerned with needle drugs.

never donating plasma again after over hearing a couple employees discuss how they get people in and out faster (by increasing the pressure which they shoot blood back into you), occasionaly resulting in a bursted vein here an there. I only did it becuase they were offering $50 to sit in a chair! As for the UA if they give you any sort of a heads up, diluting helps. Drink plenty of gatorade (not water, it's more obvious you diluted) and urinate frequntly before. It werked fer me :aok

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Re: Drug test
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 04:04:11 PM »
 For THC it's still 50 ppm in the U.S. for those who go to concerts.  

For those who go to concerts?? :O

What does that mean???
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