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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2012, 11:47:50 PM »
I would seriously hate to program all those intersections in the GPS
I was thinking the same exact thing. I have never seen a flight plan with so many checkpoints.

If they have time with that flight pattern, i am sure they had plenty of time program all those checkpoints.
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2012, 11:54:35 PM »
As I said above I thought they were already done with all the testing.

Individual airframes go through certain tests and acceptance checks. Cold soak flights for any number of reasons are not uncommon and quite normal.

Gulfstream had a crew draw a big GV across the CONUS during one such flight. The certificate holder we affiliate with had a crew draw their name over the Midwest. You have plenty of time to plan these flights where you'll be in the air for 6-12+ hours and no particular destination.

This isn't a first.



The 747-800 just recently missed hitting all 48 states of the CONUS by a few miles. I think it was West Virginia they missed but don't recall exactly.

Yep, WV.

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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2012, 02:40:57 AM »
I thought they finished that a while ago?

The GE XX engines they're doing it for, or so I believe.
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2012, 01:01:48 PM »
Mach, the 787 with GE engines is still not certified, only the RR powered 787's are. I read on another site that this might have been the last flight needed by the FAA.

As for the logo, this is why i love Boeing... they did this for the 747-8 as well.

Golfer, they missed rhode island by a few miles as well.
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2012, 01:56:11 PM »
Mach, the 787 with GE engines is still not certified, only the RR powered 787's are. I read on another site that this might have been the last flight needed by the FAA.

As for the logo, this is why i love Boeing... they did this for the 747-8 as well.

So that's why I got confused, makes sense now.
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2012, 02:02:53 PM »
If they have time with that flight pattern, i am sure they had plenty of time program all those checkpoints.

As far as I know they usually have the dispatchers do the flight planning, but even if it's pilots the flight planning is still a lot less boring than typing out all this stuff into the FMS.

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And if you make a mistake the autopilot could fly you to some place on the other side of the world. Ones I was making a relatively short flight (in arizona) with 3 or 4 checkpoints, make a typo, the plane started heading for Florida. I noticed it as soon as it showed me the flight route but there were plenty of people who didn't.

In the 80s (or 70, can't remember for a fact) there was an airline flight from California so Sidney, the pilot made a typo while programming his autopilot. A few hours later he was shut down over Russia.
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2012, 02:21:19 PM »
There have been numerous shoot downs of civilian airliners but I believe you're thinking of Korean 007.

Depending on how thick your tin foil hat is you can believe the airplanes guidance was mismanaged or more was at play.  Such as the Russians believed it to be a US AWACS type airplane.

The Russians didn't try very hard to not shoot the airplane down either.

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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2012, 04:52:33 PM »
There have been numerous shoot downs of civilian airliners but I believe you're thinking of Korean 007.

Yeah I think that's the one.

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The Russians didn't try very hard to not shoot the airplane down either.

Yeah but it does during the cold war. As an AWACS it could have been coordinating an attack, or it could have been just used as a bomber to get a nuclear bomb in, maybe it could even bring a few spies into the country.
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2012, 05:49:08 PM »
Yeah I think that's the one.

Yeah but it does during the cold war. As an AWACS it could have been coordinating an attack, or it could have been just used as a bomber to get a nuclear bomb in, maybe it could even bring a few spies into the country.

Master tactician you are.

The Russians didn't need your help coming up with a reason to shoot it down any more than they need your help to justify what isn't justifiable.

They didn't try very hard to not shoot it down. And shooting down civilian airliners IS something as a general rule one should be trying very hard not to do.

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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2012, 07:57:26 PM »
You don't need to convince me that it was it was a bad idea and they should have intercepted and made him land. But also it was the cold war and I can understand why they did it.
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2012, 11:40:01 PM »
You don't need to convince me that it was it was a bad idea and they should have intercepted and made him land. But also it was the cold war and I can understand why they did it.

The aeroplane was just about to leave Russian airspace when they decided to kill it, there is/was no excuse.
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2012, 12:17:02 AM »
The aeroplane was just about to leave Russian airspace when they decided to kill it, there is/was no excuse.

How do you know that?

And what do you mean there was no excuse? It was a war.
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2012, 01:40:01 AM »
Take your contrarian hat off and actually think about what you're saying. Then objectively look to see if it makes any sense.

I think you'll find not only aren't you making sense, this is in fact a considerable tangent on which we aren't making any sense.

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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2012, 01:49:00 AM »
Take your contrarian hat off and actually think about what you're saying. Then objectively look to see if it makes any sense.

I think you'll find not only aren't you making sense, this is in fact a considerable tangent on which we aren't making any sense.

They had no way of confirming who was on board. Yes, they should have intercepted it, but you can't blame them for shooting it down.

You keep saying that I'm wrong, so in your opinion what should have they done?
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Re: Boeing logo flight
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2012, 07:36:22 AM »
How do you know that?

And what do you mean there was no excuse? It was a war.

What war?

As to how I know, I watched a documentary on the TV, while I wont vouch for its entire correctness, certainly most of it was correct
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