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Offline Selino631

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Re: Any recruiters here?
« Reply #60 on: February 16, 2012, 01:21:25 AM »
Awesome.....

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that's exactly what i was going for... lol
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Offline dirtdart

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Re: Any recruiters here?
« Reply #61 on: February 16, 2012, 07:17:32 AM »
Well eagl, I think your stats are a bit off, seeing as how in 10 years in Vietnam 59,000 ish men and women were killed.  Ten years in Afghanistan, the numbers of wounded and killed are no where near that.  

Yes, advances in PPE have made some events survivable, which certainly in the past would not have been survivable.  I reckon the guy with no legs, who volunteered to serve by the way, would be happy to see a kid get married rather than be pushing up daisies.  I agree that the cost of lifetime care is staggering.  I also agree that nothing about a pension or benefits is secure.  I talked to my wife the other day about the prospect of working until the day I die because my pension from the military may not happen if we keep pitching budgets that are 1/3 greater than GDP.  I also dislike volunteering to fight and win my nations wars, then end up coddling cultures that are barely out of medieval times.  It used to drive me nuts to have to work with XXXXX country army, watch them do things that we find morally disagreeable, and watch them squander the gift of security and treasure. Especially when I drive over interstate bridges in the US that are on the verge of falling apart.  I was very lucky as a Company Commander years back in XXXXX, XXXXXX in that roughly 30% of my company was awarded purple hearts and I did not have to write any letters home.  I talked to a lot of fathers and mothers at the CASH, but thankfully not from the morgue.  

SO what does all of this mean.  Well, I have come to terms with being a chess piece.  One of the reasons I went to OCS was to take care of Soldiers.  I was on staff duty one evening and the CSM came up to me and asked if I was going to drop another packet.  I had already been turned down twice because I did not have a four year degree. I made SSG wicked fast, was the 82ND ABN DIV NCO of the Quarter, and was my Brigade Nominee for the Audie Murphy. I said, well CSM, F them, I am going to be the SMA.  He laughed and said, I want you to think about this, the Colonel still has to sign my leave form, and off he went.  So all night, I puzzle on this cryptic BS message this 33 year, hamburger hill vet dumped on me.  I reckoned he meant, that no matter what as an NCO you are never dad.  He was right.  I do regret the decision to go to OCS is many ways.  Two of the guys that were PVTs when I was a young SGT are 1SGs right now.  I often wonder where I would have ended up.  

I am bummed it did not work out linking up with Tom when I was out at NTC.  

Well, "Tupac" you have pages full of advice and discussion.  When I entered the military I was an immature drunk.  My parents had provided with me everything I needed as a kid, I just was too busy being pissed off at the world to understand it.  Being a Private in the Infantry sort of cured all of that.  Going to some of the schools I have been to has made me understand who I am to a degree most Americans will never understand about themselves.  If you take away the notion of service to your country and look at the job as a profession that is a challenge, see if it is what you want.  Not many are inclined to do it.  I wake up every weekday at 0420.  I do PT from 0530 to 0630.  I get home at 1700-1800.  When I was an OC I worked  three weeks straight, then four days off, then three weeks straight again and again for two years.   The job is not for everyone.  

eagl is spot on when it comes to degrees.  Suck it up and get a technical degree.  I have a Masters in Geological Engineering, I am certain I can find a job in that field when I leave the Army.  My undergrad is in History, no way in hell I am doing anything with that degree than being good at trivial pursuit or impressing you Captains with my command of random historical knowledge.....



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Re: Any recruiters here?
« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2012, 07:44:12 AM »
Wow, I would have never thought of him as " not officer material."  MEPS doesn't give you a  wiff of what the military is like.  SmokinLoon, indeed.

MEPS is a lot of shuffling around, waiting in lines, walking through assembly lines where the tenders don't care and don't want to know but only to do their job, listening to someone bark orders, etc.  It isn't a "true" feeling, you're correct.  But there is a feeling of "I'm not in Kansas anymore."  It does give the absolute "never been away from home" types a small whiff of what the military is going to bring on a macro level.   
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Offline dedalos

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Re: Any recruiters here?
« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2012, 08:58:32 AM »
I think I'm going to wait until after I get out of college and then decide if I want to go in the reserve or not.

 ;) See what I mean?  You never intended to join anything did you.   :lol
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Re: Any recruiters here?
« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2012, 06:44:44 PM »
MEPS is a lot of shuffling around, waiting in lines, walking through assembly lines where the tenders don't care and don't want to know but only to do their job, listening to someone bark orders, etc.  It isn't a "true" feeling, you're correct.  But there is a feeling of "I'm not in Kansas anymore."  It does give the absolute "never been away from home" types a small whiff of what the military is going to bring on a macro level.   
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Re: Any recruiters here?
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2012, 08:25:31 PM »
Dirtdart,

I don't have exact numbers... I was thinking along the lines of the same order of magnitude, being tens of thousands of wounded and "merely" a couple thousand dead between Iraqistan and Afghaniland, despite it being a different sort of war fought with different tactics and weapons, against an enemy that does not have a peer sponsor like N. Vietnam had.  Even with no modern sponsor opposing the US, the human cost has been staggering on both sides.
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Re: Any recruiters here?
« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2012, 12:31:47 PM »
I went down to the recruiter today and took a practice QT, I got a 74. He said usually people score 8 points higher on the real test.

They already talked you down and into the office, eh?  :D
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Offline jay1988

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Re: Any recruiters here?
« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2012, 11:51:59 PM »
A 71 on your asvab can get you a good job in the Air Force. I scored about a 70 on my asvab and now I manage networks in the Air Force which is a pretty chill job. FYI not knocking the Army or anything but you can have a real relaxing time in the Air Force while still serving your country.