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Offline Karnak

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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2012, 09:33:07 AM »
Vinkman,

Per Widewing, IIRC, it would be able to run down La-7s on the deck.

fyi, the Bf109F-4 out turns every Spitfire in AH other than the Mk I, Mk V and maybe the Seafire.
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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2012, 09:40:16 AM »
Speed is everything. If you can't catch them, they won't fight.
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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #122 on: March 06, 2012, 12:32:27 PM »
Vinkman,

Per Widewing, IIRC, it would be able to run down La-7s on the deck.

fyi, the Bf109F-4 out turns every Spitfire in AH other than the Mk I, Mk V and maybe the Seafire.

Are you sure about that? That has not been my experience. Compitive, but not better. Back up anyone?

As for running down La7s. Hmmm, all of the P-63 data I've seen is "A" model with WEP, which I believe was 1300hp base, and 1500 WEP. I have seen A models listed as "wet" WEP, but I have not seen HP ratings for that engine. Everything I've seen shows top HP rating for "A" variants as 1500HP. It is my understanding that the C model made 1800hp with wet WEP, but I have not seen any test data for this variant.

I've never seen a speed chart that shows a P-63 faster than an La7 on the deck. Does anyone have sucha chart?
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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #123 on: March 06, 2012, 02:23:32 PM »
fyi, the Bf109F-4 out turns every Spitfire in AH other than the Mk I, Mk V and maybe the Seafire.

Either you are trolling or you are drunk. The statement is wildly inaccurate. Go get badboys bootstrap calc, see for your self... spits, ki84, etc.. all out turn the k4.

Or check this page...
http://gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php

or if your lazy here..





EDIT: I'm sorry, I just noticed you said F4 not k4.... yeah the F4 is close but its not as good as you state it...

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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #124 on: March 06, 2012, 02:25:56 PM »
What was that again.  Sorry hear the phone.

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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2012, 04:19:42 PM »
My "Japanese wishlist":

B6N2 - carrier torpedo bomber/level bomber, replacement for the B5N2
B7A2 - carrier torpedo bomber/level bomber, replacement for the B6N2, all carriers lost before it entered service
D4Y1 - carrier dive bomber, replacement for the D3A, fastest dive bomber of WWII
H8K2 - well protected high performance flying boat, patrol aircraft/bomber/torpedo bomber
J2M3 and J2M5 - interceptor with good climb and decent speed
Ki-43-I, Ki-43-II and Ki-43-III - most common IJA fighter, lightly armed and built but extremely maneuverable
Ki-44-II - Moderately armed interceptor with good climb and decent speed
Ki-45 - twin engined fighter of modest capability
Ki-61-I-Ko - early version of the Ki-61 with four 12.7mm guns and better turning ability
Ki-61-II - late version of the Ki-61, faster, more ammo, cut down rear fuselage
Ki-84-I-Otsu - Ki-84 with four 20mm cannons and perhaps a slightly more powerful engine, might be a light perk plane
Ki-100 - Ki-61-II airframe with a radial engine, slower, better climb
Ki-102 - twin engined attack aircraft with decent performance and some larger guns
N1K1 - float plane fighter
N1K1-J - land based interceptor based on the float plane fighter, a bit lower performance and much less ammo than the N1K2-J
P1Y1 - bomber/torpedo bomber with good performance and the ability to carry two 500kg bombs which would make it very useful for a Japanese bomber



Great list

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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2012, 04:32:21 PM »
Personally .. I would like to see a new countries plane/s added before anything from countries all ready in the game.


Add these Countries:

IAR80/81..........Romania
Boomerang........Australia
D-520..............France


Of countries all ready in the game the Italian set is the weakest.


New Countries,

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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #127 on: May 04, 2012, 05:16:41 PM »
I'm sorry but I don't carry much for the Japapanese airpranes either. For one they bombed Pearl Harbor, so I don't care. Sounds wierd but I hate them.


 :headscratch:



as far as I knew the Japanese pilots flying the said planes bombed the Harbor....are you telling me the planes flew themselves and bombed it????

that's like saying you hate hammers because you smashed your thumb with one.





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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #128 on: May 04, 2012, 05:44:27 PM »
Actually enjoy flying the kites of the empire, myself.

Flying Axis 99% of the year in FSO, we log allot of sorties in them all, in...an environment that adds much realism to the fight, not only that FSO is a one life effort, but other factors as well, and when flown smartly...they perform well and are enjoyable to engage with.  Most are simply overwhelmed in the MA late war environment, lacking a dedicated force to pursue their use.

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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2012, 06:32:08 PM »
there is no counter for the runner in a Japanese plane - but - if you take a few chances and draw them in close, you can get a fight. . .but most pilots are far too timid and will just dive away at the first sign of trouble.

The only real axis counter is in the 190d and the 109k4.

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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #130 on: May 05, 2012, 11:18:23 PM »

 :headscratch:



as far as I knew the Japanese pilots flying the said planes bombed the Harbor....are you telling me the planes flew themselves and bombed it????

that's like saying you hate hammers because you smashed your thumb with one.





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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #131 on: May 05, 2012, 11:38:44 PM »
    I have often wondered why there is such a lack of interest from this comunity in Japanese aircraft.  I remember a poll from awhile back and the Japanese plane had 13% support.

    I can't speak for the rest of the folks who play this game, but I love ALL airplanes and I am excited by the opportunity to fly anything that fought in WW II.  Yet most people who play here are only interested USA/British/German planes.  It seems odd to me that if you have in interest aviation that you would not enjoy the chance to fly everything. 

    When a new Japanese plane is suggested legions of people line up to say:  "what a waste of time it would be" ...or "it would be a hanger queen" or the one that irks me most ..."it would not revolutionize the MA" 
    At this point, with all the planes we have available, there are not many planes left the would "set the MA on it's ear" so asking for a revolution seems a bit much.
    Hanger queens?  the only thing that makes a plane a hanger queen is the pilots fear to fly it.  I can assure you the "hanger queen"is eager to fly....ready to fly ...and she would love to get in the action.  It's the pilots who are afraid, not the airframe, she has more then enough courage.

     I guess it just seems odd to me that there is no interest in Japanese planes.  Even more puzzling is how strongly players oppose HTC making more Japanese planes.  All I can hope for is:  when we have 20 versions of the spit ...20 versions of the p51 and 20 versions of the 109 ...maybe ...just maybe ...we could get a ki-43? ...or a ki-44? .....or a Nell ? I'll take anything. I'll continue to hold out hope!


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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #132 on: May 05, 2012, 11:40:42 PM »
In the right hands, a N1K2 fears nothing but a patient energy pilot (with a bit more E).
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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #133 on: May 06, 2012, 10:47:40 PM »
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Re: Lack of Interest in Japanese avation
« Reply #134 on: May 07, 2012, 01:19:28 AM »
The Zero is a excellent plane,  I used to fly the A6M2 a lot as a beginner plane.  I was never a big fan of Axis planes but some did have there advantages.  I grew into the Ki-84 and Ki-61 both excellent planes.  I probably will have to start back in them again to get the rust off my joystick, before I can fly the P-47D-40 again. :P


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